It shouldn't have ended that way!

[DrFaroohk]

I see a lot of movies that document the lies of famous people, such as Ali or The Fighter or other movies...and I just feel like they shouldn't have ended there.

Like in the fighter...I was all through the movie like "Who's gonna play Gatti? I can't wait to see the Gatti fight seen! Gatti is awesome! I want to watch mark wahlberg fight gatti! WOOHOO GATTI! Wait a second...who the fuck is this irish guy? It's over? WTF!?!?!?"

And many many others.

[jackfaire]

Not just movies about famous people either. There are plenty of movies where your really getting into it and then "credits" and it feels like the movie was incomplete and unfinished like they stopped telling the story right where they should have started.

[HYHYBT]

With biographical movies, it depends; I certainly wouldn't expect every one to begin with birth and end with death (or the present, if the person is still alive.)

As for feeling "like they stopped telling the story right where they should have started," the closest I've felt to that was watching The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. 3/4 or so of the movie is set-up; you *know* there's too much of it for how much is coming after (though the setting up was by far the better part), and you know there's not going to be a sequel to justify it afterwards.

[jackfaire]

*nods* and usually the set up is largely unnecessary and I gotta say in the League even more so.

These are all based off of characters in other books. Though I didn't know that Twain had written a sequel to Tom Sawyer

[Hyena Dandy]

With biographical movies, it depends; I certainly wouldn't expect every one to begin with birth and end with death (or the present, if the person is still alive.)

At the same time, to most people who followed him, the idea of making a Micky Ward biopic without Gatti would sound like... Making a Reagan biopic that ends with Governor of California. Its a good story, a very impressive story, and its a satisfying ending. But we go into it with the real world knowledge that not only did the story go on, but it went on to completely eclipse that.

That said, I think The Fighter ended at an alright time for a story, and while I felt a little confused about the fact that it didn't have Gatti in it, I was impressed with what they did. They made a good story, and going into it knowing that it wasn't going to have Gatti, I was impressed with the story they told. It was a good character portrait. I can imagine it must have been disappointing going into it expecting the Gatti fight and not getting it, but I would have imagined that fans of that fight would have known it didn't happen in the movie.

[AdminAssistant]

So, I got on Wikipedia to see what you guys were talking about, and read this:

Wahlberg confirmed to Spike TV that The Fighter 2 is in the works, which will focus on the legendary fight trilogy between Ward and Arturo Gatti.

So there ya go.

[Ghel]

I remember watching a show - I think it was an episode of one of the Star Trek iterations - where they had done the whole set up for the guest star dying. The guest star got infected first, had the worse symptoms, was closer to dying, but insisted that they treat the regular cast member first. So the regular cast member wakes up from the treatment and finds that the guest star pulled through.

It felt like there was a last-minute rewrite because the network execs didn't like the idea of the beautiful, young guest star dying. It felt wrong.

[mikoyan29]

I'm not going to complain too much about these endings, since they seem to work for their respective mediums. In Red October the book, they arrange for an old US submarine to get switched out for the Red October. The Soviets sink that one and the Red October escapes. The Soviets are happy because they think they sank the Red October. The US is happy because it gets the treasure trove of stuff. It was a pretty deliberate ending which works well for a book. In the movie, the Red October manages to put iself in position so that the Russian Alfa gets caught by its own torpedo. The Russians still think the Red October is sunk...but now they are missing an Alfa. It worked well in the movie because of tenseness thta comes out well in a movie.

The ending that ticks me off more, is the ending Clear and Present Danger because I thought the book ending would have worked well in a movie. If I remember correctly, Ryan manages to convince the people that were transporting the soldiers to Columbia to help him get those guys out. In the movie, he has to rent a helicopter....completely different (but not bad).

But that one is not nearly as bad as the hack job they did to Sum of All Fears. I can buy changing the bad guys in the book but to change Ryan from the experienced CIA guy in the book to the new one in the movie is just wrong because that pretty much means they aren't going to make the rest of the series.

However, the ending that pissed me off the most was the ending to "Pearl Harbor". Why on God's green earth did they have to do the Doolittle Raid? And when I say they, I mean the folks that were flying single engine planes for their whole careers. That mission was hard enough for experienced bomber pilots. I can't imagine the added difficultly of learning how to do a multi-engine plane on top of learning how to take said plane off from a carrier. Ah well.

[Greenday]

I personally loved The Fighter. I didn't have a problem with the ending of it. Think it worked well for that movie.

On a side note, I'm very impressed with Mark Whalberg and Christian Bale with that movie. Whalberg started training in 2005 to be in shape for the movie. They started producing in 2009. Bale dropped 30 pounds for his role. They also didn't request tons of pay like some other actors definitely would. Quite a performance, especially by Bale, that blew me away.

[jackfaire]

Christian Bale is what an actor should be. He gets paid for the work but doesn't do it for the fame he does it because he loves acting as an art form and puts his all into it.

I mean hell in the Prestige I honestly didn't know him and his rep were the same guy.

[AdminAssistant]

Christian Bale is what an actor should be.

Not exactly. He may be a great actor but, one of the first rules of acting is don't be a dick to the crew. EVER. As soon as I heard that rant of his I lost a lot of respect for him. The ability to drop/gain weight and wear latex makeup doesn't make you a great actor.

[Greenday]

The ability to drop/gain weight and wear latex makeup doesn't make you a great actor.

No, but damn is that some some dedication to a role.

[Andara Bledin]

No, but damn is that some some dedication to a role.

He's a method actor. The style usually involves full commitment to every role, which has seen it's share of controversy.

As for him flipping out on the director of photography who had, for the second time (in I don't know what period) walked onto the set during the middle of filming. I don't know what Hurlbut thought he was doing moving around while filming was going on and considering that it was considered "the most emotional scene of the movie," I'm not at all surprised that Bale was more than a little upset. However, contrary to reports, he didn't actually threaten to quit the film if if happened again, merely that he wouldn't work on the same set as the man who had already ruined two separate takes.

^-.-^

[jackfaire]

As soon as I heard that rant of his I lost a lot of respect for him. The ability to drop/gain weight and wear latex makeup doesn't make you a great actor.

A person's personal life has no say in what I think of them professionally.

His behavior on the set is only my concern or my business if I am casting a movie and he is one of my considerations otherwise the only thing that I need to concern myself with is his final product.

Plus I think of anyone the same I would in any profession. If you were a dick ten minutes ago and yelled at your boss/coworkers about storming out and taking the gold fish well I really don't care if that isn't the part of your job I am concerned with.

If it isn't just something that happened and was really a problem then he will alienate other crews who won't work with him and he will find it increasingly hard to find work.

Other people think they need to know more than the final product and that's fine but me they are a professional just like me and I don't need to know about their internal matters no matter what my newspaper thinks.

EDIT: I would like to make a note that there are limits. For example I bought a baseball cap yesterday now if the guy who made it yelled at his boss or created a hostile work environment but it was dealt with properly in house that is none of my business. However if the hat was made using virtual slave labor, real virtual slave labor not "they make so much less money than me and since I don't realize they live in a country where that less money still buys more than my paycheck does they must be slaves" but real they are mistreated slave labor then I won't buy the hat because the companies doing the wrong things and the internal fix is wildly broken.

[Gravekeeper]

Arguably, anime has built an entire industry around ending shows the wrong way. ;p