A female Doctor.

[SongsOfDragons]

That's like asking for an American James Bond.

James Bond is a Time Lord.

[Ginger Tea]

Last time I saw Neil Patrick Harris on UK TV was Dougie Howser then later Dude where's my car, OK I don't have a telly and was not an avid viewer anyways, but I do know of some of his shows (even if it is by name) and they are in geek fandom, but UK geek fandom is no where near the size as American.

But I feel they would just be pandering to the American Geek crowd and not giving a fuck about other viewers geek or otherwise back home if they tried to snatch a well loved geek icon into the role, what would be next Felicia Day as the companion.

Shouldn't have typed that, now there are probably going to be a dozen fan fic's of the two 90% veering towards slash fiction.

I don't want it to be more American, next thing you know we in the UK would be waiting 6 months to get it on the Telly cos the networks that piggy back BBC America strong arm them into showing it first over there.

[Hyena Dandy]

That's like asking for an American James Bond.

Yeah. Truth is, The Doctor is British. I'll accept him as man, woman, both, neither... Pretty much any age or gender.

But I won't accept him as anything other than a British person.

I guess maybe if an American had a REALLY good accent... But The Doc should be British.

That said, just as a thought experiment... The first and most obvious answer is Johnny Depp. I know that he's very much Yesterday's News, but the truth is, yeah. He'd work in that role.

Holly Marie Combs, I think, would be good. Charmed was an awful show, and she was a major part of that, but it was never her performance. Just that she got creative control.

Mary McDonnell could do well as well.

Nathan Fillion would be able to handle it too. He's funny, he's charismatic, he's intelligent, and he can do 'big' characters.

Wil Wheaton would be fun. He probably wouldn't take the role, but if Wil Wheaton played the Doctor, I'd be really interested to see what he could do with the character.

If I had to pick an American, though... And this sounds weird, I know.

I kind of want to know what Danny Trejo would do with the character.

I know. It's crazy. But I honestly think that Danny Trejo could play The Doctor. He'd have to play him more like the Third did, as much an Action guy as he is a thinker... But I think that Trejo can bring the intensity, the flamboyance, the eccentricity... And, honestly, I think he can do the intelligence too if you give him enough time.

Yeah. Crazy thought. But it's mine.

[daleduke17]

Yeah. Truth is, The Doctor is British. I'll accept him as man, woman, both, neither... Pretty much any age or gender.

But I won't accept him as anything other than a British person.

I guess maybe if an American had a REALLY good accent... But The Doc should be British.

Totally agree.

That said, just as a thought experiment... The first and most obvious answer is Johnny Depp. I know that he's very much Yesterday's News, but the truth is, yeah. He'd work in that role.

And he comes with a writer, producer and companion actor.

Plus, a Dalek-centered episode written by Tim Burton? Make those fuckers extra-scary.

Wil Wheaton would be fun. He probably wouldn't take the role, but if Wil Wheaton played the Doctor, I'd be really interested to see what he could do with the character.

He would either be really, really good or really, really horrible. There'd be no middle ground.

A couple of American actors I think would do really good: Johnathan Frakes, Dwight Schultz and Mark Harmon. Yes, "Howling Mad" Murdoch from the A-Team (also Lt. Reginald Barclay from Voyager), Cmdr. Riker from ST:TNG and Jethro Gibbs from NCIS.

Schultz would be more of a 4th Doctor-type, jumping about, kind of kooky, etc. Frakes would just be class and able to showcase more of the "intelligent" side, but still able to dish out some hurt when needed. Harmon would be more of the when it is time to work, we work, when it is time to play, we play sort. No 10th Doctor romance, no 11th Doctor silliness.

[Ginger Tea]

Plus, a Dalek-centered episode written by Tim Burton? Make those fuckers extra-scary.

The Daleks are dead to me, I know the costume change was an ergonomics one, not too keen on the shape, classic daleks changed every year but I love the Tennant era ones introduced in Eccelstons Dalek.

I have a 7" or whatever iron clad and the to victory poster, been meaning to buy more to make a decoupage and a bronze from the new 3" range, if they make an iron clad I'm getting one (dozen).
But a Dalek asking if I want a cup of tea?

The only saving grace for Asylum of the Daleks is the woman at the beginning was kinda bangable in that outfit, I might even let her keep the stalk.

But no thank you skittles.

[HYHYBT]

How did a minor change to their design make the Daleks dead to you?

[Ginger Tea]

would you like a cup of tea?

[gremcint]

Yeah. Truth is, The Doctor is British. I'll accept him as man, woman, both, neither... Pretty much any age or gender.

But I won't accept him as anything other than a British person.

define british for a minute here because I believe Tennant was scottish.

[Ginger Tea]

Scotland is part of Britain, so is Northern Ireland Wales and England.

It is NOT a 2nd name for England and even if Scotland succeeded from Britain the island is still Britain, or the British isles.

The Isle of Man and Jersey I believe fall under the British isles but Gibraltar and the Falkland's islands, though British ruled are not part of the main continent.

[Hyena Dandy]

As was McCoy, and as will be Capaldi.

From the Cambridge Dictionary

"Of or coming from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

Which would count Scotsmen, Welsh, English, and Northern Irish.

When I say British, I mean "A citizen of the UK."

Although I could be speaking historically,and meaning "A person from the British Isles." Or possibly geographically, and meaning "Person from the Isle of Great Britain." A Scotsman is all of those. Some Scottish Nationalists don't LIKE that, but they are nonetheless.

I said British, not English.

Edit: Sniped.

Also, Alexander Siddig was born in the Sudan, but I think he'd still be British enough, as his mother is English, andhe's always lived in England.

[Ginger Tea]

Both my parents are English and although born here, I could have been born in Germany had my mother insisted on coming back to her mum's for the last leg.
But if I was born in Germany, although it might affect my passport to dual nationality, I would not see it affecting my being English or British on the whole.

The whole area I lived in was like little England as each and every household the father was in the Army, never got that when I got older, cos my dad spent more time in Belfast that I recall.
He only left the Army as the next level of schooling was German speaking and as we were in a bubble my German consisted on 1-10* sometimes 20 hello good bye please thank you dunkoph and swinehunt.

This Alexander guy, he's got dual nationality (assuming his father is from Sudan) and as you said spent most of his life here, so it just means in his case he is a Britton born in Sudan, if both parents were not from Britain then he would be an immigrant but seeing as he's spent hardly any time in Sudan, he probably would not identify as much.

And this is sequentially, ask me to count backwards or recite a telephone number and I will look at you blank, mind you I cannot find the letters in alphabetical order as I have been on qwerty for so long, I look for a H word and I am skipping past J on my way to M when I remember it's in the other direction.
Put it in qwerty order and I might be able to find it

[Hyena Dandy]

I was mentioning Siddig on the grounds that he's less British than Tennant is, but he's still a British guy, even though he wasn't born there.

[HYHYBT]

define british for a minute here because I believe Tennant was scottish.

Isn't he still?

[D_Yeti_Esquire]

I always find the Doctor nationality thing a bit silly, but then I would since I find Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man being played by Brits absurd. Especially when they mangle a simple western accent (I have not seen Cavill's performance yet though.) Good news is, the British film industries and actors tend to be far more protectionist than their Hollywood counterparts. Short of maybe Peter Dinklage currently (and Westeros still isn't England), American actors at least currently don't seem to get the call from across the pond.

Someone said something earlier about Gaiman throwing that line in to The Doctor's Wife and that maybe it's not a real thing. I think the problem is, Gaiman vocalized what a lot of people wanted to see. It gave them a rallying point, even if it was a gag. It also wasn't extremely obvious tongue-in-cheek like the Sherlock and Watson relationship references. And it happened to such an extent that you now have people refusing to watch the show on the "not another white male" principle. And I think it split the fandom a bit between people who it was a big deal for and people who didn't care. If Gaiman was just being funny, then it was a very, very, very bad idea.

[gremcint]

Ok fair enough on the British part, that was exactly why I asked for clarification.