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    I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread on this. A couple of weeks ago, youtube made more changes, one which requires a google plus account to leave comments. This has not been recieved well, there has been petitions made to change it back to how it used to be. But it seems like google is sticking to their guns.

    I think this is a pretty dick move on Youtube/Google's part. Ever since google took control of youtube, they have been messing with the site. Remember when they were pushing for you to use your real name? You'd get a random popup that wouldn't go away until you gave a reason for not wanting to use your real name. I don't know why Youtube/Google does this, but it's really stupid.

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    "Company owning website expects users to conform to their terms and conditions in order to use their free services."

    Not seeing the headline in that.

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    • #3
      actually, I agree with Rageaholic. Yes, companies can put whatever they want as conditions for free services. There comes a point, however, where you go too far. Social networking sites have good reasons to insist o real names; Youtube has none.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by s_stabeler View Post
        Social networking sites have good reasons to insist o real names; Youtube has none.
        I avoid the youtube comments like the plague on the channels I go to, there is never a real dialogue going on, just insults, trolls and malware adverts touting the latest celeb sex tape.

        You can post shit all you like under the name "skunk flocker" calling people fags etc, but would you if it came up as "David Whitby of Dover" says "I'm going to rape you and slit your throat".

        I don't like half the shite going down, but also I can see where the loss of anonymity comes into play, but there might be no checks in place to prevent you from setting up a google+ account with totally fake info and still be able to say shit as David Whitby of Dover, yet be Mrs Suzanne Smith of Kent aged 85.

        South Korean's have their online life tied into their social security numbers and people wishing to play on Korean servers who do not have one or a similar form of ID on their Alien Registration Card can only ask their relatives or friends in South Korea to register in their name, but if they do and you start causing shit from America Europe or anywhere else in the world, it is Kim JeYoon the account holder who cops for all the flack as s/he is the one the account is registered to, not his or her American born cousin.

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        • #5
          Google is trying to have their accounts synced across all of their services. They claim this will help reduce the amount of trolling and distasteful comments left on videos. To remove the anonymity, if you will. Their intentions are in the right place, but they're failing to realize that a troll will just create a throwaway account and still continue to do everything Google wants to stop.
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          • #6
            Right. It requires pretty much zero effort to create a throwaway G+ account, so there's really not much reason to bitch. I already know several people who have their personal accounts and their persona accounts. Much like with Facebook.
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            • #7
              I was thinking of getting a chrome book ages ago (the 320gb version has been discontinued and a 16gb SSD is in its place for the same dosh) and would have set it up under my newest pen name not my real name, though if inclined enough I might change it legally.

              Also as the story I am brewing in my head and not written much about bar scribbling's in the margins of a jumbo Sudoku book is based in South Korea I even have a Korean sounding name that I stole from a podcast.

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              • #8
                *shrugs* I don't get what the big deal is; just use a fake name. I use my net name to sign up for sites that ask for a real name. It looks like a real name, after all and even looks quite normal next to all the Maddylyns and Jaydens there are around nowadays.
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                • #9
                  I don't read or write comments on YouTube, so requiring some account on some site makes no mind to me.

                  I do, however, take umbrage at them prodding me constantly about changing my name. Bugger off, Google, you arrogant primary-coloured muppets. I like my generic online ID!

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                  • #10
                    I too do not have a YouTube account, I don't make videos so I saw little point in having one, and I rarely had anything worth adding to what was already said, nor did I want to get into a war of words with trolls obvious or not.

                    Whilst I can watch 99% of videos without having to sign in I am happy with my YouTube experience, should they suddenly change and force me to sign in to view a random video that someone linked or embedded in a website I might reconsider, then again I might just forgo on content unless I absolutely wanted it and these days there is more of interest coming out on YT than I can name on TV.

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                    • #11
                      I've had to link my gmail and YouTube name a LONG time ago so my only problem is there new comments and subscriber numbers.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by crashhelmet View Post
                        Google is trying to have their accounts synced across all of their services. They claim this will help reduce the amount of trolling and distasteful comments left on videos. To remove the anonymity, if you will. Their intentions are in the right place, but they're failing to realize that a troll will just create a throwaway account and still continue to do everything Google wants to stop.
                        My main issue with FB and G+ and similar is they don't seem to get that my RL name is only one of my identities, especially online.

                        Yes I have a RL name and some friends know me by it. But to my DnD friends on IRC I'm Jetfire. To people here I'm Jetfire. To my Everquest friends I'm Saroc (ditto for my Ingress friends), etc...

                        If they want to know who I am and who I'm linked with, they should provide a better way for me to link people up. I don't know who many of my friend's RL names are... But I know their online identities. My G+ circles and FB have a few of those friends on; but I'm always wondering who they are unless they say something contextual.

                        Let me invite Saroc of Everquest to Tharkis of Everquest and Jetfire of my IRC channels to Talera of those same channels. (And no, the groups and circles don't work, because I can't easily nick name those people... or I may not even WANT them to know my Real Life name).

                        Forcing me to use my Real name just limits the information they get from me. You'd think Google or FB would be in sync with the Online communities enough to realize that; but apparently not.

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                        • #13
                          I had almost an essay typed out until realizing it was unnecessary. After all, Fratching grew out of Customers Suck. Outside of the internet, you can complain about work when among friends without a fake name, because your bosses aren't there and the conversation doesn't exist once it's over. Having the same conversation online with even a veneer of privacy means using a different name and losing or obfuscating identifying details. Killing that in the name of stopping trolls (or to force people into your unpopular social networking scheme since nobody will use it voluntarily) is evil. And the Terms of Service don't alter that; that you have the right to do something does not make it right to do it.
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                          • #14
                            At my last few jobs I always went by my middle name, although pay roll has me down by my first and my pay slips were my first and middle initials last name or first and last name, depending on which job I was in. My managers knew me by my middle name, some knew it was my middle, they didn't care, hell I even joked that on the weekends my name was Linda (though that is part of my Mills and Boone esque pen name should I ever take up romance novels) and six months after that I would still get called Linda jokingly by supervisors and even the MD on the odd occasion he was in on the weekend and I would respond each time (unless I had headphones on at tea break).

                            My close family and friends from Manchester call me by my first which is a bit jarring now as I have spent 15 years not going by the name, a few companies I deal with call me by that too as they don't do the Mr Last name crap, but as the card is under my first name and I like chatting to some of the guys I let it slide.

                            I can and have introduced myself to strangers as another name altogether, nothing outlandish like an internet handle, but I have been a Dave a few times, the likely hood of seeing those people again is small and I get away with white lies as long as anyone around me doesn't know me by any other name and spoils it, I do not pass myself off as someone important or doing a skilled job (one co worker passed himself off as a Doctor once in a night club), but if I say my real name is Harry, you have to take that as fact (even though I am lying) as you have no other information to go on.

                            Outside of the mods here I guess as I don't recall what information I had to enter when I signed up years ago.

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                            • #15
                              Presently I'm more upset at how YouTube has appeared to modify the comments section after remaining relatively the same since signing up in '06 (was it really that long ago?). I don't utilize Facebook or Twitter or the like so I find trying to go through the comments section to be nearly impossible.

                              I was annoyed by the constant name-changing pop ups that appeared, since my present username on YouTube is the same as my Xbox LIVE gamertag is the same as my GameFAQs username is the same as my character in Pokémon: Black Version is the same as on That Guy With the Glasses is the same as on my own forum is the same……
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