Star Wars vs. Star Trek

[Plaidman]

I like both, though in different ways. I like the fact that the different races in SW, you know, look like different races, and not like humans, but with a slightly different nose, or freckles, or different colored skin, (Different then white!) that Star Trek Had.

Star Wars was bloodier, and deadler. If I was in Star Trek, I'd hook my self in with the Holodek with a food replicator. Perfect world all the customers that are idiots can be beaten, and I get a raise for doing that.

I mean seriously on that note. I'm suprise the whole universe just didn't do that. Klingons get their entire lives devoted to nonstop war. Humans can explore everything peacefully. Vulcans can study and learn. Meanwhile the Borg are secretly assimlating them through holodek and repilcator technogy. Borg win.

But I perfer Star Wars world, but alot of the stories I liked are in Star Trek.

[Amethyst Hunter]

I hate them both.

You may now commence with the rabid fan-attacks.

[Flyndaran]

I hate them both.

You may now commence with the rabid fan-attacks.

I loved them both as a kid. But as an adult, I find them both FAR to blase about life and killing.

[depechemodefan]

I really like Dune, the book. I read that maybe 2x a year. But the other books arn't as good. I was trying to read Dune Messiah recently, and I jsut kind of coudlnt' get into it. I was rooting for Irulan.

The original Dune was written well, had interresting char. I didn't know exactly where it was heading (though I can imagine Paul would win). Though if I'm not reading the book I remember Baron Harkonnen as a wonder villian, then I read and find him kind of hysterical.

[Pagan]

I love them both. For me, it really is an apples and oranges comparison.

Although I love George Lucas, I freely admit that the man should not be allowed to write dialogue!

Sylvia727 - All 6 of the SW movies are the originals. They are all the collective brainchild of George Lucas. After all, the story arc is about Anakin, not Luke.

Slytovhand - Were you speaking of the real Battlestar Galactica, or that horrible show that's masquerading as BG?

depechmodefan - Is there something in particular that's hanging you up with Messiah? It's been a while since I read the books (Dune through Chapterhouse). I've gotten a bit behind with the others....and I have the added distraction of the "Sword of Truth" series....

[Sylvia727]

Pagan - meh. Episodes IV - VI have a very different feel to them than Episodes I - III. I much prefer the older trilogy, which I've always heard referred to as the "original" trilogy. The story arc about Anakin just doesn't interest me. Luke's story, while not particularly original, holds my attention a lot longer. And really, I didn't get the impression that the stories in Ep IV- VI had much to do with Vader at all. It's only in Ep VI that he becomes more than a foil for Luke's development.

[Slytovhand]

lytovhand - Were you speaking of the real Battlestar Galactica, or that horrible show that's masquerading as BG?

I presume you're referring to the latest installment of it? With a female Starbuck? Yes, I would be as well... but, it's still true of most series... only a handful of main characters who do everything (well - except clean up or go to the toilet ... or die). So, no, not Lorne Greene (not that it mattered... still the same things happening).


And yes, I do remember that one

(Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, anyone??? hehehe)

[Slytovhand]

Pagan - meh. Episodes IV - VI have a very different feel to them than Episodes I - III. I much prefer the older trilogy, which I've always heard referred to as the "original" trilogy. The story arc about Anakin just doesn't interest me. Luke's story, while not particularly original, holds my attention a lot longer. And really, I didn't get the impression that the stories in Ep IV- VI had much to do with Vader at all. It's only in Ep VI that he becomes more than a foil for Luke's development.

I agree. I like the visuals on the latest installments, probably the dialogue was better (but perhaps not ), but I think the first 3 sort of made more sense. That's why I liked the remastered versions. (and sheesh, woudl I liked to have smacked Anakin... and Obi Wan... around the head a couple of times...but that's just scripting!)

Who wouldn't turn to the Dark Side with everyone calling you 'Anny' all the time

Btw - Syliva, they used lightsabres, not foils...

[Sylvia727]

"A lightsabre for Luke's development" sounds like it would help Luke develop clear out of this life and into the afterlife....

[Evandril]

A story going around before they finally made I-III was there would be 9 movies, overall...and it basically tracked the droids as, not the 'focus', but what went on around them. How true it was, I've no clue, but it sounded more interesting than anny

[AFPheonix]

Meh. We all know Lucas was pulling this out of his ass as he went. He can claim and protest all he wants that he had his over-arching plan all laid out before ep. IV but it's painfully obvious by simply watching the movies that he didn't at all.

[Slytovhand]

Actually, I'd say he did have it all in his head, but wasn't sure if he'd be able to pull it off. Thus, compromise had to be made, and perhaps things went in a way that would wrap things up rather than let some things hang.

Also, just because you've got the wide view, doesn't mean you've thrashed out the close-up.

There is a book around about what happened to Luke, Leia, Han etc after VI. I haven't read it though

[Sylvia727]

There are a lot of Star Wars books about what happened to the main cast, with varying degrees of skill and authenticity. I recommend starting with The Thrawn Trilogy by Timothy Zahn- Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and Last Command. If you lived in my city, I'd loan them to you.

[Evandril]

Though, if you read them...When you have the urge to go "The author did WHAT!?!? I'll kill him!", it was in his contract, he didn't have a choice in the matter. (Yes, that will make sense if you've read it )

[depechemodefan]

Although I love George Lucas, I freely admit that the man should not be allowed to write dialogue!

Yeah, though a lot of IV is quotable "These are not the droids you are looking for". HF did have it right when he said "You can't right shit, George" or something like that.

depechmodefan - Is there something in particular that's hanging you up with Messiah? It's been a while since I read the books (Dune through Chapterhouse). I've gotten a bit behind with the others....and I have the added distraction of the "Sword of Truth" series....

I read the beggining of Dune and it's interresting. Kind of a mystery with who is the Reverand Mother and what will she do with Paul. And why Jessica is afraid. And the Gom Jabor (sp). And then the other chars are introduced but right away you know Yueh will betray them and you just want to know how and when and you hope Leto will escape, but he doesn't. And it just draws me in. With Messiah, it opens up with the plotters and you know Paul will mess them up. He sees the future, duh. Yeah, there are some people introduced (I forgot their names) and you want to know why one guy kills the old man and the blind son and takes the gf of the blind dude, but I can tell Paul will bet them all.

I remember Heretics and Chapterhouse as "a tripod government is the most unstable of all governments" etc. And Shianna (sp) who can control the worms...what was the point of that? How that happen? So she is a decendant of Leto, but???