Star Wars vs. Star Trek

[telecom_goddess]

Star Trek

I have to say that it's Star Trek all the way for me. Especially the original series.....although I have watched episodes of most of the other ones and have watched a lot of the movies as well. To me it seems more realistic...they had a lot of stuff on the original show that didn't seem possible back then but are a reality now. The communicator? hello nextel walkie talkie...it's here. The episode with the little shiny discs showing clips of different areas of time to get through the time portal? Looks like a DVD to me. The Transporter we haven't created yet...oh if only . I would love to transport to work and home, no commute whatsoever. Once we have that and a holodeck life will be great!!

[AFPheonix]

Well....except for those occasional nasty teleporter accidents like in the opening of Star Trek: The Motion Picture

[telecom_goddess]

Well....except for those occasional nasty teleporter accidents like in the opening of Star Trek: The Motion Picture

True a malfunctioning transporter could leave one in a mess......and you couldn't do a thing with yourself.

[Slytovhand]

I loved ST:Enterprise... except for that horrendous final episode!!!!

And I watched B5:Legend of the Rangers the other night, too. Bad acting, especially in the beginning, but the series would have had some hope... too bad it didn't take off (with better actors!)

[Evandril]

Go see the Star Trek movie...ST wins, hands down

[AFPheonix]

I wanna see the Star Trek movie.......

[smileyeagle1021]

One thing I will add in favor of Star Trek, Gene Rodenberry has gone to great lengths to use his art to promote progress towards more social liberty (look at how he was one of the first to have prominent colored characters and had the first interracial kiss). RIck Berman didn't live up to Gene Rodenberry's standards, but many actors who were involved protested that fact.
George Lucas, while still a good man and an excellent cinema artist, made movies to entertain... he never really used his movies to push progress.

And one totally unrelated note... can we stop comparing cell phones to communicators... cell phones are nothing like communicators... a communicator can get crystal clear reception from one unit to another hundreds if not thousands of miles away without cell towers on the ground or satellites in space... my cell phone drops calls and there's a cell tower a mile away from where I live... case closed.

[Greenday]

One thing I will add in favor of Star Trek, Gene Rodenberry has gone to great lengths to use his art to promote progress towards more social liberty (look at how he was one of the first to have prominent colored characters and had the first interracial kiss). RIck Berman didn't live up to Gene Rodenberry's standards, but many actors who were involved protested that fact.
George Lucas, while still a good man and an excellent cinema artist, made movies to entertain... he never really used his movies to push progress.

I'm going to go there and compare races in the real world to different species in Star Wars. The Rebel Alliance was all about inter species relations. One of the reasons they detested the Empire was because they were xenophobic.

[Evandril]

And one totally unrelated note... can we stop comparing cell phones to communicators... cell phones are nothing like communicators... a communicator can get crystal clear reception from one unit to another hundreds if not thousands of miles away without cell towers on the ground or satellites in space... my cell phone drops calls and there's a cell tower a mile away from where I live... case closed.

Comparing cells to communicators is like comparing the shuttle to a starship...Same idea, *slightly* better tech

[SG15Z]

Star Trek and BG (since it's been brought up) have 2 things that really shit me in a series... immortality and omniscience. How come, almost no matter what (other than contract changes with the actors), they come through everything??? The standard Trek joke is true..it's the guys in the red shirts that get killed - no-one else does! And, the other one.. every away mission has a head-honcho or 2... "Ooh - new alien race that is extremely violent and likely to kill a few team members - let the captain go down!" Rubbish! Same in BG (or was, for what I saw)... Starbuck is the only person out of the thousands who is capable of conducting an interview of a prisoner.. not anyone in security - oh no... got to be her!

Uh Starbuck died!

Yeah sure she came back, sorta. Course we're not entirely sure of the connection between the Starbuck in season 4 and the Starbuck is the rest of the show. It's never made 100% clear that the one who died and the one that showed up at the nebula are the same person.

Anywho As far as Trek and Wars. No way I'm getting into that. That discussion is dangerous territory. I'll go back to watching BSG and Stargate now.

[smileyeagle1021]

just to submit it here, to lighten the mood
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892

The two are the same

[Vagabond]

I'll have to go with Star Wars on this one.
- There is no 'stun setting' and it looks more like a real universe. It's dirty, dangerous and characters die and/or get injured.
- Yes, there's a lot of nostalgia for me.
Negatives - yeah, bad writing and 1 ecosystem worlds.
I counter with - you know a Star Wars quote when you hear it. and if someone mentions tattoine or dagobah - you know what they're talking about.

Star Trek
- It was great for it's time, but that time passed a loong time ago.
- Pushing social issues and acceptance and tolerance is fine, but, honestly, I watch movies and tv shows for escapism and fantasy not social issues and politics.
- There was nostalgia for me... until the multitude of spin-offs happened.
- Star Trek the original tv show was good. the Movies were good (until Kirk got fat and they had a whole movie about 'saving the whales' - WTF!?!?)
- And now there's a total of what 11 movies, and 5 spin-offs? Tell me that's not a cash-cow!

FireFly
- I love it. Great stories, and good writing... and quotable.
- It too looks like a lived-in universe.
- Too bad it got canceled.

BattleStar Galactica
- I've thus far refused adamantly to watch ever since the 1st episode.
- Starbuck is a woman!??! Hell no! I remember the original series, and there was always that bromance between starbuck and whats-his-face, I just couldn't get over the sex change.
- Cyclons look like people now? Okay, .... but then, everyone's a cylon? WTF!?!?! Whatever.

[Nyoibo]

There was a stun setting in Star Wars, that's what they shot Leia with at the start of the first movie.

[Vagabond]

My bad. I forgot about that.
The rest of the time, they shot to kill... granted the stormtroopers rarely hit anything, but that's another matter.

[XCashier]

Yeah, though a lot of IV is quotable "These are not the droids you are looking for". HF did have it right when he said "You can't right shit, George" or something like that.

I believe Ford said, "George, you can write this shit, but you can't say it." Yeah, he can write a great story, but the dialogue...sheesh!

Both Star Trek and Star Wars were groundbreakers in many ways, but there have been other sci-fi series that I liked better. Babylon 5, Doctor Who and Blake's 7 are three good ones (though I haven't been happy with DW lately). If you like comedy with your sci-fi, try Red Dwarf or Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (the original BBC series).