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  • #16
    Originally posted by rahmota View Post

    I'll agree that as long as a person does more good in general than harm then what does it matter who they sleep with or which divine being they worship if any at all.
    Bingo. In my opinion, world religions are simply each culture's response to that which they could not understand about the world around them, and to provide a social framework in order to create a cohesive, workable living arrangement for all involved.

    Something that powerful and integral to a society is just ripe to be corrupted and used for evil, no matter how benevolent it was meant to be in the first place.

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    • #17
      Raps: Thanks for the confirm on that and the info. I figured the guys wherent BSing on something that serious. That is one thing that I noticed about bikers it doesnt matter what colors you wear you just dont disrespect someone who died in the service of their country.

      AFP: Exactly. Too bad too many dont understand the big picture of this sort of thing.
      Last edited by rahmota; 05-20-2007, 05:15 AM.

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      • #18
        Just recently, those Westboro freaks) were supposed to come here to protest. Needless to say, they didn't. Apparently, they had the balls to spew their filth about a local vet over the 'net...but as soon as the locals, including several motorcycle clubs, found out, Phelps and Co. didn't have the balls to show up.

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        • #19
          This is the same group that protested the funnerals for the miners killed at the Sago Mine in West Virginia and the funnerals for the Amish girls that were killed in Pennsylvania

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          • #20
            Jesus. There's a special place in hell for people who would think it's ok to protest a funeral for an AMISH child.

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            • #21
              Hmm, because the Amish are a very non-violent, peaceful people who live together in harmony. But, peace-loving men are unnatural, so they must be gay, because REAL men like war and violence.


              Wait a second... then how did the Amish have children? Ouch, I just hurt my brain.

              I saw a whole news thing about these freaks, (Fred Phelps and co, not the Amish) and the woman being interviewed had about as many screws loose as she could have and not droll on herself. I know she said why they were protesting the funeral of a young man who gave his life so that she could enjoy the freedom to protest his funeral, but I can't even remember what they were. All I know is that when Fred Phelps dies, I hope each and every one of the families they have hurt give him a very special going away present.

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              • #22
                If I recall correctly, Westboro is mainly made up of family members, so it's not really attracting a lot of outside followers.

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                • #23
                  They just got nailed with a nearly $11M judgment for picketing a funeral. I'm sure they'll never pay a dime, but it makes me grin to know they got pwned.

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                  • #24
                    Me thinks they won't be around much longer. One of these days, they are going to show up at the wrong funeral. Especially if they show up at one around here. One of these days they are going to piss off the wrong grieving family. I'm sure there's someone out there who would give their freedom to make sure these idiots never hurt another family again.

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                    • #25
                      One of these days they are going to piss off the wrong grieving family. I'm sure there's someone out there who would give their freedom to make sure these idiots never hurt another family again.
                      To be perfectly honest this has happened already. There have been a few individual attempts against either their compound or phelps himself. Each time they used the court system to attack and punish that person.

                      So actually a civil judgement is more effective. At least not without a concentrated military-like effort against the compound and group.

                      This is not to say that I am surprised there hasnt been more violence involved since they moved into protesting at funerals. Take people who are already emotionally distraught, throw in some agitating jerkwads, and mix a few wild cards in with the biker group and you have a formula for an interesting event if someone goes too far with one thign or another.

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                      • #26
                        Do a youtube search for the phelps. Every vid I have seen of these assholes has them protesting surrounded by police. You would have to ram a car in there or use a sniper to take one of them out. They aren't stupid, but most zealots aren't.

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                        • #27
                          Why are the police protecting these people as they protest at funerals?

                          I'd rather have some officers standing outside the church making sure those idiots didn't get inside or anywhere near the herse or interfere with the drive to the cemetary!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by blas87 View Post
                            Why are the police protecting these people as they protest at funerals?
                            That's the double-edged nature of freedom of speech. The Phelps and their ilk aren't doing anything illegal, as abhorrent as their actions may be. The police know if they aren't there, something will happen to the Phelps, no matter if they disagree with their stance or not, it is their job to prevent a beating or a murder if they can.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MadMike View Post
                              Has anyone else noticed a resemblence between Fred and the evil preacher guy from Poltergiest 2?
                              I did notice that! I didn't think it was possible to be more fundy than Pentecostals, till I saw Fred and his church.

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                              • #30
                                Ever get the feeling that if Jesus showed up today, he'd be labelled a fag-enabling hippie peacenik and hated by *cough* "Christians" like Phelps, Robertson, and Limbaugh?

                                Here's a plan... when all the Westboro hatezombies are out shouting obscenities at a five year old burying her puppy that got hit by a car, someone sneak into their compound and slip a large quantity of LSD into their water supply.

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