Tuition Aid For Illegal Immigrants

[daleduke17]

http://pantagraph.com/articles/2009/...1194281988.txt

This is bullshit. Why is the nation wanting to (or already have in some state's instances) MORE reasons for people to come here illegally?

If the person is illegal, send them back to whatever country they sneaked away from.

Now, before I get bashed: I don't care if people immigrate here if they use the "front door".

[blas87]

I agree with you whole heartedly, and I'll be right by your side when illegal immigrant sympathizers come to throw fruits at us.

You want to live here, you come here legally and go through all the processes to live her legally.

If some border jumper gets aid for school and I ONCE AGAIN get denied financial aid, I will go ballistic on someone.

[McDreidel09]

I totally agree. I work my butt off to pay taxes and scrimp and save for school. I was born here. Someone who came here illegally gets rewarded. I don't care if the came here illegally and then got citizenship. As long as you get citizenship. The people who refuse to even try are reaping the rewards. It's utter bullcrap.

[AdminAssistant]

Honestly, I think there needs to be more parameters on tuition aid all around - higher GPA requirements, higher test scores, etc - based on a combination of need and performance. I also think that everyone should qualify for a set amount of Pell Grants, based on GPA and need, and if you're on scholarship for a Bachelor's, you should have access to that funding for post-graduate studies. I went through my entire undergrad without taking any grants or loans, working my ass off to keep my scholarship. Then when I went to get my master's, I didn't qualify for any grant money AT ALL. So, now I have a lovely chunk of student loan debt to pay off whenever I finally graduate.

And, no, illegal immigrants should not qualify for federal assistance for college. In fact, and this is surprising from a die-hard, bleeding-heart liberal, I think we need to be reducing student visas from other countries, increasing standards, etc. I have students who barely speak English. Apparently, in the sciences, there are a lot of TA's from other countries who barely speak English. I have a bit of a problem with this.

[Greenday]

So, when A LOT of US citizens are in desperate need of help, many of us going deep into debt for college, people are lobbying for illegal immigrants to get money for college instead?

Fuck that shit.

[DesignFox]

What. The. Fuck.

I don't give a shit if illegals want to PAY to go to college. But to hell with this GIVING them money bullshit.

You want to benefit from my taxpayer dollars? You better put in your fair share. If you aren't contributing because you don't belong here in the first place, then screw off.

I know a lot of people who have gone into debt to pay their college bills. I myself have loans that I'll be paying for the next ten years despite all my hard work and hard earned scholarships. Why should someone who isn't even a legal citizen get preferential treatment over someone like me?

Heeeeeeeeelllllll no. This is bullshit. The students should have to be full fledged legal citizens before they can compete for financial aid.

[smileyeagle1021]

Oh, Utah does something that is just as infuriating. Illegal immigrants get instate tuition. I could have gotten instate tuition sooner if I had darker skin and could convince an admissions counselor that I was from Mexico. As a pale skinned guy with a nevada drivers license I was told I had to wait 2 years. The rationale is that there is no way to track how long an illegal has been in state and it would be unfair to punish those who had been in the state the required two years by denying them... or some such bullshit... here's an idea... want fairness, they can do the same thing my grandma did, go to the immigration office and get citizenship.

Though I do like what Utah is moving towards... they're slowly moving towards getting rid of time requirements and moving over to financial independence requirements (ie, you aren't dependent on someone out of state).

[tabbyblack13]

I can't believe this.

I took out two student loans to get though college. My parents made too much money to get me on work study. I have over $40,000 of debt to pay off in ten years. I worked two summer jobs so I had money during the school year. The loans didn't even cover all of my expenses.

If they are here illegally then they have no rights.

[powerboy]

That is Bullshit. I cannot better myself, because I do not qualify for financial aid. While someone who is illegal, gets to better themselves. Fuck them. If they want to better themselves, then come and get citizenship. I am tired of them getting everything handed to them. if I went over to their country, I can promise that I would not get anything.

[Salesmonkey]

It is in the interest of the Republic to provide for the education of the next generation of workers. The tax revenue of a doctor or engineer is greater than that of a manual laborer. What part of "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" is so confusing?

[smileyeagle1021]

What part of "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" is so confusing?

what part of apply for citizenship and pay taxes before receiving government aide is contrary to that saying?

I for one have a problem with paying taxes and getting nothing because all the money is going to someone who doesn't pay taxes.

[McDreidel09]

what part of apply for citizenship and pay taxes before receiving government aide is contrary to that saying?

I for one have a problem with paying taxes and getting nothing because all the money is going to someone who doesn't pay taxes.

Thank you! It's hard for me to get financial aid because I'm a white girl and we all know white girls from the U.S. have fucktons of money.

Sorry. I come from a single parent household who is currently out of work and is getting unemployment. My paychecks are shit because I go to high school and can't work all the time.

Yes, we should help those in need, but first help the people who gave to the system.

[BlaqueKatt]

It is in the interest of the Republic to provide for the education of the next generation of workers. The tax revenue of a doctor or engineer is greater than that of a manual laborer.

and if they don't have citizenship-guess what they aren't paying taxes-and there is no guarantee that they won't come over for free schooling and then stay-heck if I knew I could get free college somewhere-I'd go there, get my education and come back here.

What part of "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" is so confusing?

that is on the statue of liberty at ellis island-home of LEGAL immigration-does not apply to illegals.

[Jester]

I would like to make one small point.

One does not have to have citizenship to be paying into the system. You can be here legally as an immigrant, either through a visa or legal residency, and still be paying taxes. I don't think most of the people here who are speaking out against the colleges offering financial assistance to illegal immigrants would have a major problem with the same colleges offering financil assistance to legal immigrants. There is, after all, a huge difference between the two.

[daleduke17]

I would like to make one small point.

One does not have to have citizenship to be paying into the system. You can be here legally as an immigrant, either through a visa or legal residency, and still be paying taxes. I don't think most of the people here who are speaking out against the colleges offering financial assistance to illegal immigrants would have a major problem with the same colleges offering financil assistance to legal immigrants. There is, after all, a huge difference between the two.

If an immigrant is LEGAL, I have no problem whatsoever giving them anything they are entitled to. If someone is an ILLEGAL immigrant, the only thing they should be entitled to is a ride back to wherever they came.