Nudity vs. Violence

[rahmota]

Exactly. But that would mean people would have to think for themselves and take personal responsibility for their lives. Gasp something dangerous in amerika today.

Be dangerous think for your self!

[protege]

And above all else... If you don't like what you're watching? CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNEL!

But, as we all know...if it makes sense, it's not allowed.

Some of you might remember me saying something about what one of our county commissioners wanted to do. For those who don't, this idiot wanted to outright force the cable company to ban any and all "objectionable" (read: porno) service in his district. Now I don't know about you folks...but if someone's going to tell me what I can and can't watch in my own house, that just pisses me off. Just because the service is there, doesn't mean you have to order or watch it! Change the damn channel! The entire local voting populace was pissed. Needless to say, after that fiasco, he wasn't in office much longer--voters decided on "home rule" and threw out all 3 commissioners.

Somewhat along those lines, if you've seen the additional footage for the South Park movie, it explains that the creators were trying to push the envelope for an R or NC-17 rating. Each time they were denied, the movie kept getting more raunchy

[Will-Mun]

Somewhat along those lines, if you've seen the additional footage for the South Park movie, it explains that the creators were trying to push the envelope for an R or NC-17 rating. Each time they were denied, the movie kept getting more raunchy

Well, yes and no. What happened was that they send it in and it came back NC-17. Completely shocked, Matt and Trey say "Well, what can we change?" They were told (and if you saw 'This Film Not Yet Rayed' you know that the MPAA tells small films nothing, and gives a LIST of what to change to big production company movies...) that the sex scene needed to be shortened, and the woman couldn't be on top, missionary or whatever only...

So, guffawing at the idiots not realizing that these were... duh... DOLLS, the joke being that this is what kids do with Ken and Barbie... They added the most RAUNCHY things they could conceivably do with the puppets and sent it back...


Seriously.... 'This Film Not Yet Rated.' Watch it, be amazed at the inept underhanded unfair MPPA...


*Edit* Unless of course you're talking about the actual South Park movie; Bigger Longer and Uncut... As oppose to just the South Park Guy's movie Team America... Then I have no idea... I was talking about Team America... Oops?

[protege]

*Edit* Unless of course you're talking about the actual South Park movie; Bigger Longer and Uncut...

Oops. I was referring to Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. My bad

[Will-Mun]

No need to apologize. You said "the South Park movie" of which there is only one. I just for some reason automatically set on Team America, probably because the stories are so similar.

I didn't know they did that with BL&U. I find it funny that they pushed the limit for BLU for shits and giggles, and for Team America they were so aghast that the MPAA DID give them an NC-17 over "puppets fucking", they upped the nastiness just to screw with them.


Seriously, you should see some of the stuff they added to the scene...

[Spaniard]

Making restrictions on digital media is just stupid, and removes the choice from the person who may want to watch it. What we truly need is a comprehensive SUGGESTIVE rating system that leaves the responsibility with the person or parent...

And above all else... If you don't like what you're watching? CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNEL!

That's what we have here in Australia... To a point. Obviously a child who is under 15, can't buy an M rated game or movie, and sometimes, if you buy an R-18 rated movie here, (in a department store - so it'd likely be more violent then overtly sexual in nature) then you may get carded if you look possibly too young.

(One gripe I do have is that we have no R18 adult rating for games, since they are only for kids apparently. Despite the average gamer being between 16 and 35.
But that's a rant for another time.)

As for the violence vs nudity thing... If that's how Europe does it, to me that does seem better. After all, the human body is a natural thing.


And I think children, though not exactly understanding at whatever age, do have a rough idea of the difference... After all, they have parents who kiss and cuddle. And they have the whole 'Ew... Boy/girl germs!' game.. So they do know there is a difference, even when they are young. Even though they may not fully get it.


As for children seeing a sex scene... Yeah, that I can understand people not wanting to happen. However, it's not really as bad as seeing a person shot over and over, or beaten up really roughly or *insert example here*.

Sadly though, due to all the overexposure to violence on tv, it seems to have become the norm to accept it, even if it is logically more harmful.