Cookie dough e-coli lawsuits?

[Nyoibo]

The trace amounts that there are of stuuf like shit, pesticides and such are on about the same levels as there is of radiation, it's infentisimal(sp) that's why they don't put it on the label, if they listed everything that was in foods in trace amounts not worth mentioning then you'd be looking at lists a foot long, we're not talking about a whole cow pat in the package, we're talking amounts like 1 part per million.

But eating bugs doesn't, you know, KILL you

It could if you happen to have an allergy to that bug, probably about the same chance as getting e-coli.

[Flyndaran]

Yeah, I thought my argument was kind of weak too. I just had to try something to keep them from sounding like greedy dumbasses to me.

[AFPheonix]

Our guts are seeded with E. Coli and other fun coliform bacteria, so maybe it wasn't cows, maybe it was a herd of people that broke into the wheat field and crapped all over.

Personally? I'll make and eat my own raw cookie dough, thank you very much.

[Flyndaran]

Our guts are seeded with E. Coli and other fun coliform bacteria, so maybe it wasn't cows, maybe it was a herd of people that broke into the wheat field and crapped all over.

Personally? I'll make and eat my own raw cookie dough, thank you very much.

That still holds the slight chance of salmonella.

Also different types of e. coli can be identified, so they would have said if it was the human type.

[Boozy]

Cow breaks in to wheat field. Poops all over. It's left, because who's gonna pick up cow poop from a field?

That's an unlikely example, given that many farmers literally spray their fields with liquid cow shit. They just absolutely drench those crops with feces. It's a good environmentally-friendly fertilizer.

With corn and wheat, it's not an issue, because that stuff gets processed before reaching the consumer.

Fruits and vegetables aren't usually treated the same, but some are (especially the organic-certified, since they can't use chemical fertilizers). Always wash your veggies thoroughly before eating, just in case.

[AFPheonix]

That still holds the slight chance of salmonella.

Also different types of e. coli can be identified, so they would have said if it was the human type.

I know there's a chance of salmonella, but seeing as I've been doing it since grade school and using the eggs from our own free-range chickens, I am willing to take that chance.

[Slytovhand]

The universe is not a safe place to live. Everything you do (including typing Fratching posts) has risks.. potentially fatal ones. Risks which, while you're alive, are impossible to eliminate.

To sue someone is almost tantamount to suing because you're still alive... in spite of the fact you're still alive...

So, if you want to eat your cookie dough - go for it. But, if you get sick, it's on your head! Cos you've been warned about it (like, you need to be warned about breathing! Hey, there's a thought - has anyone sued any of the local governments for air-born pathogens, or for excessive pollution, yet??)

[Caveat Emptor]

I'm gonna sue the DWP 'cuz they expose me to dihydrogen monoxide on a daily basis! Dihydrogen monoxide is damaging to the environment and potentially fatal to humans, as little as a few inches can kill a child!!

[Flyndaran]

The universe is not a safe place to live. Everything you do (including typing Fratching posts) has risks.. potentially fatal ones. Risks which, while you're alive, are impossible to eliminate.
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Come on, proper risk assessment is the issue, not the existance of risks in an absolute sense.
That's a real big problem with america and even humanity in general. They don't understand how to properly maange risks.
Just because eating peanut butter regularly will increase your chances of developing cancer by one in a million, does not mean that smoking ciggarettes is an equal risk.

[Slytovhand]

No, not at all Flyn.. But, if you do eat your peanut butter regularly, and you develop cancer, should you be suing someone for it?

Similarly, if you eat your dough and get an infection, do you sue?? After all, it's higher on the risk scale than the peanut butter...

And I wasn't arguing about risk assessment - I was arguing about personal responsibility... and not trying to blame someone else.

[I8DaCookie]

I'm gonna sue the DWP 'cuz they expose me to dihydrogen monoxide on a daily basis! Dihydrogen monoxide is damaging to the environment and potentially fatal to humans, as little as a few inches can kill a child!!

Penn and Teller already tried to get it banned

[Flyndaran]

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And I wasn't arguing about risk assessment - I was arguing about personal responsibility... and not trying to blame someone else.

I'm just divided. I'm also trying to see things from all sides.
In this case, I will have to accept defeat and admit to one side being right after all.
But should warnings trump all?

[Slytovhand]

Well, I'm of the opinion that if you're told point blank not to do something because it's potentially dangerous, and the dangers are outlined.. and then you still go ahead and do something (for that matter, going out of your way to do that very thing you've been advised not to do because it is dangerous or risky)... you've made that conscious decision, you and you alone pay the consequences.

I am often reminded of a time down this way when a mate was housesitting for their friends who had gone overseas. They lived in one of those canal estates, and there was a big sign saying "Don't jump off the jetty - shallow water". Needless to say, he jumped off the jetty into the shallow water... broke his neck and got paralysed from the neck down (IIRC). He sued. Originally, he won a hefty compensation. But, on appeal, he lost.. because, and I think quite rightly, because he foolishly ignored the sign! Tough bikkies, matey!

So - is there much difference between that, and the warning labels on foods??


ETA: No, I don't think warnings trump all. I've worked in traffic management (standing on the roads with a stop sign). First rule is to try and eliminate the potential dangers. If you can't do that, then have a way to avoid them... same with this. e-coli will be impossible to completely eliminate the risk of... so they put warnings up. What more does anyone expect them to do??

[DesignFox]

Well, I'm a bit torn on this one. Yes, cookie dough has warnings telling you about the dangers of eating it raw.

But generally speaking, the worst you expect from that is salmonella. Not e-coli.

So...yea. Do they have a suit? Maybe.

[Flyndaran]

Well, I'm a bit torn on this one. Yes, cookie dough has warnings telling you about the dangers of eating it raw.

But generally speaking, the worst you expect from that is salmonella. Not e-coli.

So...yea. Do they have a suit? Maybe.

Or maybe the company should pay for thier treatment on the condition that they get to inject salmonella into the warning ignorers, eh?