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Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers
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Originally posted by Greenday View PostI wouldn't be surprised if we come up with much more technology in the near future to help determine this. I mean, theoretically you can get the death penalty when you are 18.Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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I agree that it's better than the death penalty. They still get to live. But the logistics of it would be nuts. So much to take care of.Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers
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I would be totally and completely against this idea, for a couple of reasons.
First scenario... rapists gets caught and has a mind wipe. 2 years later, the victim sees the rapist on the street... all the crap they went through, all the pain, all the horror, all the grief suddenly comes flying back... when they see the criminal happily walking down the street to go to his job, with a happy smile on his face.. scott free! Umm - no, that's not an ok situation!
Second scenario, and a much bigger argument against. Take your Columbine shooters, those going postal, those kids (and sometimes adults) who lose it completely, because they just can't stand their life anymore.. they're full of anger, and hate, and rage, and just want everything to go away... what they'd really like to be able to do, is go an shoot all those people who they hate, who have been giving them grief for so long. The only reason more people don't go ballistic is the fear of retribution, the fear of punishment. Those people aren't going to care about losing their life, their 'friends' and all the rest of the life they had.. they want that. Trust me, there are some people (and I was once one of them) who'd hear this legislation, and say "Where do I sign?".
Mind wipe?? No guilt, no remorse, no repentance, no shame..... no way! (I think we've got a slogan there! )ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?
SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.
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Originally posted by Slytovhand View PostFirst scenario... rapists gets caught and has a mind wipe. 2 years later, the victim sees the rapist on the street... all the crap they went through, all the pain, all the horror, all the grief suddenly comes flying back... when they see the criminal happily walking down the street to go to his job, with a happy smile on his face.. scott free! Umm - no, that's not an ok situation!
As for your other argument...
Finally! Someone with a great reason to say it's a bad idea!Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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That does bring up another point. Does the mindwipe take care of some of the mental underpinnings that caused the crime in the first place? Like psychopaths for instance. Slyt brought up Columbine. Eric Harris was a psychopath and Kliebold was pretty severely depressed.
Do the psychopaths get a mindwipe and then get put in a mental institution for life?
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Originally posted by AFPheonix View PostDo the psychopaths get a mindwipe and then get put in a mental institution for life?Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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Originally posted by BroomJockey View PostAssuming the psychopathy was caused by a structural defect in the brain, and was thus incurable, I doubt they'd mindwipe in the first place.
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Are you familiar with the term "thought experiment"? Where you think up a scenario and then contemplate the consequences as a means of divining society's values and your position on theoretical topics? I submit that if you're unprepared to engage a topic on the level presented, you may want to start a parallel one to engage it how you wish.Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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Originally posted by BroomJockey View PostAre you familiar with the term "thought experiment"? Where you think up a scenario and then contemplate the consequences as a means of divining society's values and your position on theoretical topics? I submit that if you're unprepared to engage a topic on the level presented, you may want to start a parallel one to engage it how you wish.
I don't see the appeal of thinking about things like what if I were a cartoon character... wait, now I do.
Please continue with your fun.
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Originally posted by BroomJockey View Postin sci-fi, you always read about memory tampering and such, so how about this:Originally posted by Flyndaran View Postas long as its impossibility is expressly stated.Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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Originally posted by BroomJockey View PostI thought that most thinking people would have realized the impossibility from the phrase "in sci-fi," A.K.A. "Science-Fiction." Apparently you missed that. My apologizes. I'll hire some sky-writers for next time
I'm not into things like space opera or future fantasy that much anymore.
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Originally posted by Flyndaran View PostI'm not into things like space opera or future fantasy that much anymore.Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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Originally posted by BroomJockey View PostNeither am I. Never really was. Cyberpunk. Dystopia fuelled by human greed and the rampant unchecked progression of technology for technology's sake. Johnny Mnemonic, the short story by William Gibson (not the movie with Neo *cough* Keanu Reeves ) is a good example. Technology shoved in to a person's brain, replacing memories with the ability to up/download information directly to the brain from a computer.
Memories are not clustered like that. They are all over the place and can even move sometimes with different parts of sense memories far away from eachother. Your mother's smell here, and her face here, etc.
Besides why not just put the memory drive in his face and replace his nose? A hell of a lot more room to mess with.
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Originally posted by Flyndaran View PostBut that technology is just as impossible as it was twhen that book was written back in the 70s I believe.'
As to why not sticking it in his nose, the information storage density in the brain is higher than any currently available storage medium. The human brain can hold Petabytes of information. By using the brain to store, you'd have massive efficiency gains.Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
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