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  • Assumptions or mental debates strangeness?

    I am just as guilty as anyone when it comes to reaching the wrong conclusion sometimes, I'm not even going to pretend otherwise.

    That being said, it's been brought to my attention that I have a behavioral pattern that some people seem to find a little unusual.

    Take, for an example. If you're in the store, and you see a white woman walking with a black child, holding his hand, what do you think? Possibly nothing, you just "meh" right past it and go on about your day, as I usually do. But once in a while for whatever reason, I notice it and immediately file through all the possible explanations...

    1. He's her son and the father is black.
    2. He's her son and he's adopted.
    3. He's a distant relative/charge that she's babysitting.
    4. KIDNAPPING VICTIM HOLY SHIT.
    5. She found him alone outside and is taking him to call for help.
    6. Teacher/student.
    7. He's her son and it's recessive genes like on Dateline that one time...

    etc., you get the idea. And that's not the only case, that's just the example I thought of first. And even though I've pulled up all these notions, I never feel like I "pick" one unless it becomes glaringly obvious (kid's dad shows up or kid looks exactly like his mother or something). I just assess the situation, then move on my way.

    So, okay, is that strange or what? I don't know because I've never picked in other people's brains on it, except to make a notice that a lot of people seem to go straight to one singular explanation. I realize there's a law of averages and hoofbeats are usually a horse, but they could also be a zebra, a donkey, a cow, a figment of your imagination if you'd had enough to drink, etc.

    (This probably also ties into my sometimes asking "could something be so-and-so?" now that I think about it...)

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    So to go off topic - is there any white guy in the world who is going to believe that his son is black simply due to a recessive gene? lol...all the DNA in the world couldn't convince me of that.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MystyGlyttyr View Post
      I notice it and immediately file through all the possible explanations...
      Thinking about this, I believe I exhibit the polar opposite behaviour. If I see something, unless someone calls my attention to it, such as by asking my opinion, I don't go through any explanations. It's just... happening. No mental power exerted on it beyond the acknowledgement of its existence. If someone actually makes me think about it, I tend to file through the possible explanations, and fire off the couple I think most likely, I suppose.
      Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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      • #4
        Didn't you make a post saying you thought different races were just different degrees of tan?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by anriana View Post
          Didn't you make a post saying you thought different races were just different degrees of tan?
          Me? If I did, it was a joke. Or about what I thought when I was 6, or something. Or I related the story of my best friend's adopted sister, who was black, and it never actually dawned on me she WAS adopted, despite the rest of the family being nearly albino. I still chuckle over that one.
          Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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          • #6
            sometimes i think very vulgar, insulting thoughts about people. typically racist or gayist (if that's the word.) i don't have complete control of my thoughts. i do my best for those initial thoughts not to impede on my actions or speech. it does bother me a lot.

            Originally posted by DrFaroohk
            So to go off topic - is there any white guy in the world who is going to believe that his son is black simply due to a recessive gene?
            i have a friend that had to pay child support for a black child. neither he nor his ex-wife were black. he just couldn't afford a paternity test.

            also, the closer your ancesters lived near the equador, the darker their skin
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            • #7
              Originally posted by DrFaroohk View Post
              So to go off topic - is there any white guy in the world who is going to believe that his son is black simply due to a recessive gene? lol...all the DNA in the world couldn't convince me of that.

              wow-that's ignorant of genetics at best

              I'm Sicilian-glow in the dark pale and auburn hair(remember Sicily was founded by Greeks-I look more Grecian than Sicilian)-my father was very dark skinned and had black curly hair-my biological father never doubted for a second I was his. My son looks like me, he easily could have been olive skinned with black hair, should my ex-husband have doubted his parentage had that happened?

              I've seen an African immigrant who had a child with a man from Sweden-child is white, with blond hair and blue eyes-his children could be either-should his father have doubted his parentge?

              Genetics is not "black and white" there are many many grey areas.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BroomJockey View Post
                Me? If I did, it was a joke.
                No, she was referring to Mysty. I recall her saying something along those lines too.

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                • #9
                  Yes, I was referring to Mysty.

                  Originally posted by joe hx View Post
                  sometimes i think very vulgar, insulting thoughts about people. typically racist or gayist (if that's the word.) i don't have complete control of my thoughts. i do my best for those initial thoughts not to impede on my actions or speech. it does bother me a lot.
                  "anti-gay" or if you like really big words "heterosexist" might work, depending on what those thoughts are.

                  I don't see a problem with thinking them as you recognize that they're wrong and try to not let them influence your life.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by anriana View Post
                    Yes, I was referring to Mysty.
                    Fair 'nuff. Hilariously enough in a topic about assumptions, we uncover the fact that I tend to assume someone's talking to the previous post if they don't say otherwise
                    Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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                    • #11
                      so, I'm thinking this type of thought process is normal for anyone to try to figure out the situation. this is also common in children although when children say it out loud they are taught its wrong to say so.

                      example:
                      my dad (african american) was on the bus with my newborn brother (who's mother is white and looked like a little white rasin) and a little boy on the bus asked his mommy, "why does that black man have a white baby?"
                      JUST MY opinion

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by anriana View Post
                        Yes, I was referring to Mysty.



                        "anti-gay" or if you like really big words "heterosexist" might work, depending on what those thoughts are.

                        I don't see a problem with thinking them as you recognize that they're wrong and try to not let them influence your life.
                        I believe those are called, "automatic thoughts", and as such can be very difficult to get rid of. They happen faster than real thought, and therefore can be quite disturbing.
                        I have a bad habit of thinking of what the worst most offensively wrong thing to say might be. It doesn't help my anxiety, that's for sure.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, and like I said, 99% of the time, I just waver right over people without a thought. But once in a very great while, something like that does just jump out at me. I don't know why exactly unless it's some weird little brain tremor that's saying "Wait, stop, analyze this situation and analyze it TO DEATH right now!"

                          I still NOTICE the different shades, it's just that they're just that, shades. Black is a really dark white and white is a really light black. It's just that if there's major difference between shades, it can sometimes jump out.

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                          • #14
                            Because we have a heavy Laosian/Hmong population around here, I don't even react when I see one of them. And there's just enough black people around here that it doesn't even cause me to give a second look.

                            But if we started talking about 50 miles north of where I live.......it's a real treat to see a non white person and everyone just has to talk about it!

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                            • #15
                              Here's some weird genetics for you:

                              I'm pretty swarthy. Roma-Italian mix. Married to a black-haired, brown eyed Melungeon. My kid? KIDNAPPING VICTIM HOLY SHIT. Pale, light brown hair, blue-hazel eyes.

                              My sister is married to a blond haired, blue eyed Finn. Everyone think her kid is part black. He's blond, but it's that burnished golden color biracial kids have a lot of the time. Dark skin. You can tell he's his daddy's kid, but his coloring is whacky.

                              And he looks exactly like my nonna's Jamaican nurse's grandson.

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