"It's so sad Michael Vicks isn't playing football anymore!"

[anriana]

To the people who signed petitions saying Michael Vicks shouldn't have been suspended for being involved in dog fighting and gambling: Fuck you. To the fans who ordered Mexico jerseys when the civil case alleging he infected someone with genital herpes and knew he had it because he sought treament as "Ron Mexico:" Fuck you. And to the guy who sat next to me in class and bitched about how sad it is no one wants to sign such a great guy: FUCK YOU!

[Flyndaran]

I hate animal abusers and want them to see real jail time.
But his crimes have nothing to do with his job as a professional player. Would it make sense if he were an accountant and the suspended him for excessive parking tickets?

[anriana]

I hate animal abusers and want them to see real jail time.
But his crimes have nothing to do with his job as a professional player. Would it make sense if he were an accountant and the suspended him for excessive parking tickets?

His crimes included being involved in gambling, which is the official reason the NFL suspended him. And they have unsuspended him at this time. This person was sad that no one wanted to sign MV to their time.

[moekosowl26]

I agree with the entire OP. Animal abusers are on the list of people I detest. He's done a lot of bad things and should have been suspended before now. I think the reason no one is signing him is there'd be a huge public relations nightmare if anyone did. If an accountant did things which reflected badly on the company in an extremely public manner, he or she would be fired, and would, in my opinion, deserve it.
Parking tickets are nowhere near being in the same category as animal abuse.

[Greenday]

So, what you're saying is that criminals should never be allowed to work again. Right?

[moekosowl26]

So, what you're saying is that criminals should never be allowed to work again. Right?

No, that is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that Michael Vicks deserves the karmic asskicking he's getting. I doubt he's hurting for money.

[BroomJockey]

So, what you're saying is that criminals should never be allowed to work again. Right?

Wow, that's a hell of a twisting. Not sure how you got there. Care to explain how you get from "keeping someone from one job that they were suspended from, a position where many players are viewed as role models, after doing several reprehensible things" to "all criminals shouldn't have jobs, amirite?"

[anriana]

No, that is not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that Michael Vicks deserves the karmic asskicking he's getting. I doubt he's hurting for money.

He is actually struggling to work out a bankruptcy plan.


I think criminals should be allowed to work again. I don't think people should glorify (Mexico jerseys) or ignore (guy in class) their criminal behavior.

[moekosowl26]

To play a bit of devil's advocate here, in my experience if an ordinary person, who is not a star or a public figure, has any sort of mark on their record, they can be almost unemployable because no one wants to take a chance, even for someone with parking ticket issues. I saw this more than once at the DVD plant I once worked at.

[Flyndaran]

Wow, that's a hell of a twisting. Not sure how you got there. Care to explain how you get from "keeping someone from one job that they were suspended from, a position where many players are viewed as role models, after doing several reprehensible things" to "all criminals shouldn't have jobs, amirite?"

I don't believe in role models. Don't blame someone else for "your" mistakes.
He's a sports player, nothing more, nothing less.
The gamboling issue is legitimate, the rest not so much.

[Greenday]

Wow, that's a hell of a twisting. Not sure how you got there. Care to explain how you get from "keeping someone from one job that they were suspended from, a position where many players are viewed as role models, after doing several reprehensible things" to "all criminals shouldn't have jobs, amirite?"

Saying that Vick shouldn't be allowed to play football is the same as saying he shouldn't be allowed to work. While he should be punished (which he has been), him not being allowed to work is unnecessary punishment. By suspending him, we aren't giving him any chance to redeem himself and make him into at least a somewhat positive role model. I bet you anything that if he wasn't a pro football player, and say, a cashier or a postal worker or something like that, anriana wouldn't be quite so against Vick returning to his job.

[Cat]

I don't if its the fact that Vick is a football player, more the fact of his crime.

I'm almost torn on this, I do believe in redeemng some criminals, not all.

Though I should stay out of this this, I cannot be unbiased....I hold no respect for any animal abuser, i see red everytime I hear about a case.

Leaving thread now....cheers!

[anriana]

Saying that Vick shouldn't be allowed to play football is the same as saying he shouldn't be allowed to work. While he should be punished (which he has been), him not being allowed to work is unnecessary punishment.

No, saying he can't play football is the same as saying he can't work in a particular career. He can go be a pooper scooper or rabies vaccine tester or K9 attack dummy.

By suspending him, we aren't giving him any chance to redeem himself and make him into at least a somewhat positive role model.

"We" didn't suspend him; The NFL did. Are you opposing that? They unsuspended him after he served his sentence.

I bet you anything that if he wasn't a pro football player, and say, a cashier or a postal worker or something like that, anriana wouldn't be quite so against Vick returning to his job.

I don't really care about football.

I do care about douchebags who sit next to me and act like animal abuse is dandy and should be overlooked as long as one knows how to handle a pigskin.

[Gost2036]

Its not that he is not being allowed to return to football, its that no team wants to sign him. His ban was lifted but nobody wants the publicity that goes with him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4359354

[AdminAssistant]

Right. Any team that signs him will have to deal with protests from PETA, SPCA, and other animal rights groups. Not only that, but the man's been out of training for 2 years. And he still hasn't been cleared for game play.