No shoes, no service...for a baby?

[AFPheonix]

Except that this particular person complied with what they asked to the best of their abilities, and the manager still threatened to call the cops. The baby was too small for shoes. It had socks on, which is appropriate for a baby too young to walk or crawl, and unlikely to be on the floor of a Burger King anyways.

Does the manager call the cops on people wearing flip flops? Honestly, I don't see much of a difference. The guy was out of line.

[Flyndaran]

Except that this particular person complied with what they asked to the best of their abilities, and the manager still threatened to call the cops. The baby was too small for shoes. It had socks on, which is appropriate for a baby too young to walk or crawl, and unlikely to be on the floor of a Burger King anyways.

Does the manager call the cops on people wearing flip flops? Honestly, I don't see much of a difference. The guy was out of line.

If they refuse to leave, then they are committing a crime and cops can legitimately ber called. Haven't you ever seen the sign saying they have the right to refuse service to anyone?
They have the right to kick out anyone that may be giving them attitude, which this woman obviously was doing.

[Lace Neil Singer]

A person in a wheelchair wouldn't be walking, by the way; yet, they'd still be wearing shoes. Would you be taking this person's side if this was the case, rather than a baby?

I too got the impression that this woman was an entitlement whore, who if her child had been injured in any way would have delighted in suing the restaurant. And yeah, H&S rules have NO exceptions. They apply to everyone; sad, but true.

[Mr Slugger]

The baby is 6 months old! I don't know too many 6 month old babies who walk...

Never mind have them keep shoes on. Aimee started getting up on her feet at like 4 months old and that was pretty much just going along furniture. But it wasn't until she was like 6-7 months until the shoes would actually stay on her feet. She could kick off pretty much any pair we put on her in seconds up until 6 months.

[AFPheonix]

If they refuse to leave, then they are committing a crime and cops can legitimately ber called. Haven't you ever seen the sign saying they have the right to refuse service to anyone?
They have the right to kick out anyone that may be giving them attitude, which this woman obviously was doing.

They did leave, however, even after complying with what the manager wanted and it still not being enough. Obviously all we have is the woman's point of view so it's hard to say whether she was rude to the wait staff. I would doubt it since she had a crowd of 25 kids with her from a church group, so I suspect that she was pretty careful about what she said to anyone in front of them.

Lace, oftentimes wheelchair bound people have contact with the ground with their feet, depending on how mobile they are. If they have no feeling, then they usually protect their feet to prevent damage.
How are socks on a baby any different than someone coming in off the street in flip flops? I would consider that to be less sanitary than socks on a baby with no contact with the ground. And yet, I'm sure people in sandals are served all the time.

[violetyoshi]

They did leave, however, even after complying with what the manager wanted and it still not being enough. Obviously all we have is the woman's point of view so it's hard to say whether she was rude to the wait staff. I would doubt it since she had a crowd of 25 kids with her from a church group, so I suspect that she was pretty careful about what she said to anyone in front of them.

Lace, oftentimes wheelchair bound people have contact with the ground with their feet, depending on how mobile they are. If they have no feeling, then they usually protect their feet to prevent damage.
How are socks on a baby any different than someone coming in off the street in flip flops? I would consider that to be less sanitary than socks on a baby with no contact with the ground. And yet, I'm sure people in sandals are served all the time.

Going "But it's a BAAAAAAAYYYYYYBBAAAAYYYY!" at the staff isn't rude?

[AFPheonix]

From the article, it appeared she was trying to inject some levity into the situation to disperse some of the tension the manager introduced. If things went down the way the article stated, I don't think she was being rude, no. Honestly, if I was in the same situation I'd probably do the same thing too.

[DGoddess]

The baby is 6 months old! I don't know too many 6 month old babies who walk...

I think a 6 month old is not quite old enough or has enough development to walk at that stage, so it really isn't like the child was going to step on anything. A 6 month old is either in a stroller or being carried by an adult family member. I wouldn't expect them to be walking.

I could see the point if the child were old enough to walk, but IMO that does seem more like somebody not having people skills and showing off their "authortai."

[Flyndaran]

I could see the point if the child were old enough to walk, but IMO that does seem more like somebody not having people skills and showing off their "authortai."

Update: it looks like the poor employees were reprimanded, and the restaurant licked the crotchety woman's boots offering free lunch to her family.
Children obsessed american public wins again.

[violetyoshi]

From the article, it appeared she was trying to inject some levity into the situation to disperse some of the tension the manager introduced. If things went down the way the article stated, I don't think she was being rude, no. Honestly, if I was in the same situation I'd probably do the same thing too.

So you'd try to counter the situation like a good parent, by acting like a small child yourself? Why don't parents realize that you deal with situations by being an adult, not going "Baaaaby! Baaaaby!" and expecting people to respect a grown adult throwing the tantrum of a 2 year old.

[linguist]

Update: it looks like the poor employees were reprimanded, and the restaurant licked the crotchety woman's boots offering free lunch to her family.
Children obsessed american public wins again.

and unfortunately I'm sure they'll be reprimanded again if a health inspector walks in and cites them for allowing people in without shoes. As has been stated already, the health codes make no exceptions for age.

[AFPheonix]

So you'd try to counter the situation like a good parent, by acting like a small child yourself? Why don't parents realize that you deal with situations by being an adult, not going "Baaaaby! Baaaaby!" and expecting people to respect a grown adult throwing the tantrum of a 2 year old.

I don't think she acted like a child at all. What examples do you have, and by that I mean direct quotes and not your impression of what she's saying, to give you that impression?
There's only one quote in there that mentions what she said to the manager, and it was not rude, it was not entitled. She was definitely direct, but being direct does not necessarily equal rude. And that particular remark was after the manager had been being pretty snide to her.

[BroomJockey]

I don't think she acted like a child at all.

Sure.

I feel like the policy was probably for grown adults who might walk in without shoes on. That's understandable. But, baby's don't wear shoes.

"The policy doesn't apply because I say it doesn't." It's a health code. It's not based on feelings.

[violetyoshi]

Sure.

So I see you've also have had experience with parents who behave more like children?

[Lace Neil Singer]

"The policy doesn't apply because I say it doesn't." It's a health code. It's not based on feelings.

That is what I'm trying to say. Heath & Safety codes have NO EXCEPTIONS. They apply to EVERYONE. It sucks, but that's life; you have a choice. You can either follow the rules, or you can throw a massive tantrum and whine, "But it's not fair!" every time you come accross a Health & Safety code you don't like.