"Mean Mom" jailed

[IDrinkaRum]

Mom caught on tape dragging her child on a leash out of a store

The mother is now being charged with child abuse, is in jail and waiting trial.

There have been a few times when Child Rum has been on her leash and I've had to scoot her along on the floor. Especially when she has thrown one of her supremely fantastic meltdowns and she doesn't want to get up.

The last meltdown she had, she wasn't on the leash, so I had to fight her to pick her up and place her on her feet before we could leave.

The kid probably threw a fit when she told him they were leaving the store, and he refused to move, so she probably said, if you don't move with me, I'll drag you. He tried to call her bluff, but lost.

Now, I can see if she dragged him all over the store/mall/parking lot, purposely dragging him into things that would cause serious injury. Then, I think she should be charged wtih something.

But for being a parent, who needed to get an uncooperative child out of the store? No, I don't think she should be charged.

[Flyndaran]

Dragging is far too dangerous to be okay. If she could drag the kid that fast, then she could simply pick the brat up and walk away.
Ticket worthy but certainly not worthy of wasting a court's time or jail space. That's for non-violent drug offenders, don't you know?

[kibbles]

From the video, I think she is getting what she deserves.

[violetyoshi]

She should've used one of those wrist leashes. Aside from that, well, more parents should be getting what they deserve, for letting their child rage in public. That puts children at risk too.

[DesignFox]

I dunno. The mom isn't hitting the kid, she didn't drag him into anything, she isn't running off, and the kid doesn't seem to be in any sort of pain or distress.

One of the posters over on the news site said they could see their kid ASKING them to drag them like that, because it might be fun. (I could see a kid doing that)

I think this is another example of "mind your own goddamned business."

If she was beating the child, bruising him, cursing at him throwing him around, or dragging him angrily and rubbing his face against the floor, I'd be inclined to do something about it.

But calmly dragging him along on his back? C'mon. He probably threw a fit. Mom said, "You come quietly or I will drag you." He refused to walk. So she dragged him.

It really doesn't look like anything cruel is going on in that video.

[Greenday]

Since I can't view videos at work, where is the leash attached to the kid?

[Boozy]

It's hard to tell where it's attached exactly, but the kid appears to be holding on to it with his hands. At least, that's what I'm making out.

Personally, I'd have picked the kid up and carried them out. Sometimes it's hard to do that if they're kicking at you in full tantrum mode, but this little one appears to have taken to Gandhi-style passive resistance.

[kibbles]

Personally, I'd have picked the kid up and carried them out.

That would have been a better thing for her to do. But one thing I didn't think of that was mentioned here, is it possible the child asked to be dragged like that because it was fun?

If the mother did it because she couldn't be bothered to pick her child up, then it is absolutely cruel; but, is there more to the story?

[Greenday]

If the kid had wanted to be dragged around, I honestly don't believe she'd end up in jail for it. Just sayin...

[Lace Neil Singer]

She should've used one of those wrist leashes.

Personally, I don't agree with those; I think the wrist leashes are more dangerous than the ones that are attached to the body. If a child suddenly pulls his arm back, he would get a nasty jerk on his arm which could have dire consequences.

Take my little brother for example. His right shoulder was loose in its socket for a while when he was growing up and dislocated at times. A wrist leash would have made that all the more likely to happen.


I think this situation is a perfect example of why people need to mind their own fucking business and keep their big fat noses out unless there's a case for real cruelty, such as if the mother was punching her child or kicking him. Ironically, the child is probably suffering a lot now cuz his mummy has been taken away from him; that kind of emotional hit could even cause him serious issues in later life.

[anriana]

I think this is another example of "mind your own goddamned business."

I think this situation is a perfect example of why people need to mind their own fucking business and keep their big fat noses out unless there's a case for real cruelty, such as if the mother was punching her child or kicking him. Ironically, the child is probably suffering a lot now cuz his mummy has been taken away from him; that kind of emotional hit could even cause him serious issues in later life.

The police and the court system that is holding the woman in jail probably know more about what is "real cruelty" than we do. Who should be minding their business here? Someone in the store saw what they thought was child abuse, they called the police, the police dispatched someone, the officer arrested the woman, and the courty system charged her with a felony and declined to release her. I'd much rather people report felonies than "mind their own business" and have a child Kitty Genovesed by their parent. And you knwo what else causes severe issues in a child's life? Felony child abuse.

The article the blog post links to says "The child had visible marks on the neck from the incident" so I would surmise the child is either being dragged by the neck or had the leash wrapped around their neck somehow. Of course, it is also labeled as three months ago, so who knows.

[Flyndaran]

Personally, I don't agree with those; I think the wrist leashes are more dangerous than the ones that are attached to the body. If a child suddenly pulls his arm back, he would get a nasty jerk on his arm which could have dire consequences.

Take my little brother for example. His right shoulder was loose in its socket for a while when he was growing up and dislocated at times. A wrist leash would have made that all the more likely to happen.


I think this situation is a perfect example of why people need to mind their own fucking business and keep their big fat noses out unless there's a case for real cruelty, such as if the mother was punching her child or kicking him. Ironically, the child is probably suffering a lot now cuz his mummy has been taken away from him; that kind of emotional hit could even cause him serious issues in later life.

You criticise the woman, and then say that people should mind their own bussiness. That seems like mixed messages to me.
I think she should get some kind of public nuisance ticket or something, but not jail time.
Overt violence is not the only type of child abuse.

[IDrinkaRum]

It looks like to me at the very end, before the camera is turned down to the ground, that the kid stands up.

If the kid is throwing a fit and won't go with his mother, then I don't see it being a big deal with the mother dragging him to get to their destination.

The mother is not doing any of the following: zigzagging him all around the displays, isn't violently dragging him hard against walls/customers, isn't getting into his face and screaming and spitting at him, isn't hitting/pinching/punching/poking/etc. him.

He is not in any kind of harm. Nor is he screaming for any sort of help.

As other posters have said: Mind your own business.

[Lace Neil Singer]

You criticise the woman, and then say that people should mind their own bussiness. That seems like mixed messages to me.
I think she should get some kind of public nuisance ticket or something, but not jail time.
Overt violence is not the only type of child abuse.

What are you talking about? I'm not criticising her at all; I quoted violetyoshi's post about wrist leashes and gave my opinion on them, NOT ON ALL LEASHES. Please read my post properly before jumping in and posting something erroneous.

The mother is not doing any of the following: zigzagging him all around the displays, isn't violently dragging him hard against walls/customers, isn't getting into his face and screaming and spitting at him, isn't hitting/pinching/punching/poking/etc. him.

He is not in any kind of harm. Nor is he screaming for any sort of help.

As other posters have said: Mind your own business.

Exactly. It seems as tho we're in a world where people are afraid to disclipline their kids out of fear of nosy busybodies reporting them to the police/child protection services. In the meantime, both organisations are too busy to get to the real, genuine cases of abuse cuz of having to plough thru timewasting crap.

[anriana]

Exactly. It seems as tho we're in a world where people are afraid to disclipline their kids out of fear of nosy busybodies reporting them to the police/child protection services. In the meantime, both organisations are too busy to get to the real, genuine cases of abuse cuz of having to plough thru timewasting crap.

Yeah, felony child abuse is such timewasting crap. Instead they should be out dealing with... SUPER felony child abuse?