why do men get all the breaks?

[the_std]

Oh no, a few instances of some terrible disease and horrible name-calling. Like what happens/can happen for nearly any reason in the world.

Just because someone calls you names about it doesn't mean it's detrimental to society. If you experienced true discrimination based upon it, you might have a leg to stand on, because we're talking about society as a whole, here. AND there are many more likely ways to get horrible diseases than shaving your legs. Those instances mentioned are specific situations that are unlikely to occur to the average woman who shaves her legs. It's hardly indicative of society in general.

[Gravekeeper]

nope I don't watch tv(except for Hell's Kitchen) or read magazines-so I'm not exposed to it at all. And most actors are not shaven and oiled up-most actresses are.

Sorry, but the only time a hairy guy chest EVER appears in a TV show or movie is when its for comedic effect. Otherwise they'll always be baby smooth. Hell if you want to get into an argument this silly, a male model is going to be shaving more than a female model as he has to cover the majority of his upper body, face and armpits.

again this is only done in the western countries-not anywhere else.

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Wrong. Horribly wrong, actually. North America, Britain, Scotland, Ireland, Australia, India, Japan ( heck some women even shave their faces there ), Korea, China, even some parts of the Middle East.

Pretending this is a freakish Western World custom based entirely on advertising to the mindless sheep is a ridiculous argument to be bluntly honest. If you want to blame someone, blame Betty Grable. Blame increasingly more revealing clothing. Heck, that's why it's called a bikini wax to begin with after all.

I mean it sucks that you've been called names over it, but that doesn't merit this personal crusade against you seem to have going on. Is it so hard to accept that a lot of women ( and men ) simply prefer the look and feel of keeping x or y shaved, waxed or trimmed? That its not some massive advertising conspiracy?

I don't even read Fratching all that much and this is the second time I've seen you go off on this argument using the same questionable references. ><

[BlaqueKatt]

Those instances mentioned are specific situations that are unlikely to occur to the average woman who shaves her legs. It's hardly indicative of society in general.

And Hiv infection is relatively rare(though MRSA deaths are higher*), studies have shown that circumcision prevents it in some cases-but everyone still uses condoms and says circumcision is bad-even in countries where the government is advocating it to try and quell the spread.

30% of the population is colonized by staph of some form-CA-MRSA is on the rise as staph can live on a surface for up to two weeks.

*An estimated 90,000 people in the United States fall ill each year from methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA. It is not clear how many die from the infection; one estimate put it at more than 18,000, which would be slightly higher than U.S. deaths from AIDS.

I don't even read Fratching all that much and this is the second time I've seen you go off on this argument using the same questionable references.

interesting considering I just searched for them-and I was not aware, CBS, ABC, And NBC were "questionable"-especially as the football team story was originally posted on the CDC's site-guess they're questionable as well.....

[AdminAssistant]

From what I've read, it seems that MRSA is most common when you have large groups of people in a small place - prisoners and atheletes being at highest risk. Since I am neither of those, I'll keep on shaving - safely, carefully, with blades that are frequently changed.

[Gravekeeper]

interesting considering I just searched for them-and I was not aware, CBS, ABC, And NBC were "questionable"-especially as the football team story was originally posted on the CDC's site-guess they're questionable as well.....

I'm referring to the singular article "Caucasian Female Body Hair and American Culture" that you like to link or is always the basis for every link. Though I applaud you for skimming my entire post for a strawman to defeat.

Regardless, this whole argument is silly. People have been removing hair from various places with various tools ( and horrific chemicals ) since the dawn of time. Likewise, beauty trends change from era to era as society advances. Thats just the way it is. Trying to tell us we don't really think that, we're just programmed by advertising is silly and kind of insulting.

Like I said, it sucks that you've been called names over this. Shaving or not shaving is your choice alone. But waging a crusade on the rest of society over it is silly. Rather than trying to prove society is "wrong" somehow, why don't you go tell the people who called you names to go fuck themselves. -.-

[Flyndaran]

When presented with mirrors, some female chimps will pluck unruly hairs from thier chins. Yes, male chimps are hairier in the face than females.