Judge in Texas is on trial

[pssorens]

http://www.cca.courts.state.tx.us/

Not great at the linky thing but note a PDF on the main page with the rules for requesting a stay of execution.

[DesignFox]

Well, according to that PDF link, the stay of execution needed to be filed 48 hours beforehand. If it couldn't be filed 48 hours beforehand counsel needed to provide additional paperwork.

I'm at work. Maybe I need to read some additional links, but it looks to me like the lawyers are the fuck ups here. Not the judge.

[Slytovhand]

I'm disgusted that so many people consider legal protections

Umm - you do realise that it's those 'legal protections' that are what got his arse fried?? And, it was those same 'legal protections' that the judge had every legal right to say "Sorry, we're not open past 5"...

The problem isn't the 'legal protections', it's the way things were handled - the non-legal side of things.;

Of course, the fact that the guy was legally tried (and executed) should also play into things here... dontchya think???

[Flyndaran]

Umm - you do realise that it's those 'legal protections' that are what got his arse fried?? And, it was those same 'legal protections' that the judge had every legal right to say "Sorry, we're not open past 5"...

The problem isn't the 'legal protections', it's the way things were handled - the non-legal side of things.;

Of course, the fact that the guy was legally tried (and executed) should also play into things here... dontchya think???

Legal incompetence should never remove someone's right especially when the death penalty is involved.
And why should it matter that he was almost certainly guilty? Laws and procedures are there for everyone, not just the innocent.
If I believed in the death penalty, then I sure as hell would want every I dotted and T crossed no matter how craptastic of a lawyer one may afford.

[Boozy]

Legal incompetence should never remove someone's right especially when the death penalty is involved.

Amen to that. Especially considering that there is compelling evidence that incompetent legal counsel is a more likely to be the deciding factor in someone receiving the death penalty than the nature of the crime committed.

[DesignFox]

Legal incompetence should never remove someone's right especially when the death penalty is involved.
And why should it matter that he was almost certainly guilty? Laws and procedures are there for everyone, not just the innocent.
If I believed in the death penalty, then I sure as hell would want every I dotted and T crossed no matter how craptastic of a lawyer one may afford.

Ok. but the guy was still found guilty MULTIPLE TIMES. The lawyers were only stalling because the use of the needle was being called into question.

Not to mention the fact that the guy hired these people.

I still say he wasn't denied anything. AND he was a repeat offender.

There was no question about this guy's guilt. I'm not losing any sleep over his execution.

[Flyndaran]

Ok. but the guy was still found guilty MULTIPLE TIMES. The lawyers were only stalling because the use of the needle was being called into question.

Not to mention the fact that the guy hired these people.

I still say he wasn't denied anything. AND he was a repeat offender.

There was no question about this guy's guilt. I'm not losing any sleep over his execution.

I don't give a rat's ass if someone is guilty or not. The death penalty is not a joke hampered by annoying little legal rights.
Lethal injection is grotesque torture. I would like beheading to be the norm. It's quick, mostly painless, and few people remain conscious afterward. Not to mention it shows perfectly how barbaric public murder really is.
Just because a non-lawyer hires incompetent lawyers does not suddenly remove his legal rights. They could have been hired for thier tie color.

[DesignFox]

I<snip> They could have been hired for thier tie color.

If that's the case, then natural selection says he loses. It was still his decision.

He was legally executed. End of story. I think lethal injection is better treatment for this guy than his victims got. If he didn't want to die, he should have thought about that before assaulting, then murdering an innocent woman. Not to mention the fact that he committed the crime in a hanging state.

It's no big secret how Texans handle their murderers. Don't want the death penalty? Don't kill someone.

[daleduke17]

It's no big secret how Texans handle their murderers. Don't want the death penalty? Don't kill someone.

That's how it should be everywhere.

[linguist]

That's how it should be everywhere.

because the innocent are never executed, are they?

[DesignFox]

*this guy* wasn't even remotely barely maybe almost coulda been or possibly innocent.

I'm not talking about whether or not the death penalty should be used. In this case it was already determined MULTIPLE TIMES that this would be his punishment.

So let's drop the question of innocents being executed. This guy was a repeat offender. Not some poor guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[linguist]

*this guy* wasn't even remotely barely maybe almost coulda been or possibly innocent.

and you know this because you were there?

I'm not talking about whether or not the death penalty should be used. In this case it was already determined MULTIPLE TIMES that this would be his punishment.

capital convictions in texas are automatically appealed. therefore, the gentleman in my previous link was also found guilty at least twice, though chances are there were more appeals.

This guy was a repeat offender.

doesn't matter. in a properly administered justice system, each case should be tried on its own merits, and any previous convictions or allegations shouldn't even come into play.

is the guy truly guilty? i don't know. maybe. perhaps even probably. but the fact remains that the judge displayed a remarkable callousness and judicial irresponsibility at refusing a last minute request to even be filed while awaiting the outcome of a supreme court decision.

[BroomJockey]

So let's drop the question of innocents being executed.

Sure, if daleduke drops the "it should be like that everywhere" statement, too. After all, one's as off topic as the other.

[kibbles]

Lets see how the judge appreciates her rights hampered by a less than perfect legal system. Isn't so fun when it's happening to oneself.

[BroomJockey]

Lets see how the judge appreciates her rights hampered by a less than perfect legal system. Isn't so fun when it's happening to oneself.

Hey, vengeance! Exactly what the justice system is all about!

Oh, wait...