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    Recently a gay couple from North Miami, FL challenged the decades long ban on gay adoption in the state of Florida. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with children being adopted by gay parents. What I hate is how people complain that there's so many kids that are in the cracks of the system and not in loving homes. Yet when there's gay couples that want to adopt, they vilify the gay couples who can provide those kids with a loving and stable home as well or even better than some straight couples can. Here's a few articles on this.

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    The Lowe-Down Blog (By Chan Lowe for the Sun-Sentinel)

    Law.com Article on Gay Adoption


    Florida Baptist Witness


    Palm Beach Post
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  • #2
    reading the law.com article made my head hurt specifically these lines:


    But Osterhaus maintains gays as a group can be excluded based on higher rates of domestic violence, psychiatric disorders and breakups.

    Judge Gerald Cope Jr. said: "This is as far as I can tell the only absolute disqualification under the statute. How is that fair?"

    He noted state law doesn't disqualify adoptive parents on the basis of criminal history, drug use or disabilities.

    Judge Frank Shepherd asked if adoption exclusions would be permitted if any group exhibited higher rates of unacceptable traits.

    Cooper responded those issues are screened out individuality and "group generalization makes no sense."(obviously unless talking about gays)

    and this is my favorite-after failing on the domestic violence/breakups platform they pull out this one:
    The state appealed Lederman's ruling, claiming expert studies show gay people face adverse conditions such as higher suicide rates and their children will face discrimination and higher rates of sexual activity.

    Puh-leeze-if they're fit enough parents to be foster parents they should be fit enough to adopt.



    *Deputy Solicitor General Timothy Osterhaus
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    • #3
      Another instance where I think the government needs to stay out of the homes of American's lives.

      There is nothing wrong with a gay couple bringing up children. In fact, those children would probably end up less fucked up than a child coming out of a traditional family.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Fashion Lad! View Post
        Another instance where I think the government needs to stay out of the homes of American's lives.

        There is nothing wrong with a gay couple bringing up children. In fact, those children would probably end up less fucked up than a child coming out of a traditional family.
        I don't even care if statistically they are more screwed up. You don't give a statistic kids. You give the individuals that you studied kids.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fashion Lad!
          There is nothing wrong with a gay couple bringing up children. In fact, those children would probably end up less fucked up than a child coming out of a traditional family.
          More like they "would probably end up less fucked up than a child coming out of a group home."

          The two arguments used against gay adoption are about as senseless as they can get:

          1. Gay = pedophile.
          2. A child raised by someone gay will end up being gay.

          I don't know where anyone got the idea for #1, but #2 has some truth in that a gay child will more likely accept his gayness if he is raised by gay parents.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
            He noted state law doesn't disqualify adoptive parents on the basis of criminal history, drug use or disabilities.
            Maybe in their state, but in many others those things are taken into consideration. Also, many adoption agencies have taken up the assumption that if a person is obese, they will be a bad parent. Which pisses me off to no end, because my dad is obese, and I couldn't ask for a better father.

            I'm not trying to turn this into a fat acceptance thread mods, I'm just saying on the subject of people not being allowed to adopt.

            I heard a story about a girl who had two fathers, and when she got her period, they had a party for her. Then all her friends wanted a party when they got theirs, and they had parties for her friends. So, I always thought that story really represents how supportive gay parents can be.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by violetyoshi View Post
              I heard a story about a girl who had two fathers, and when she got her period, they had a party for her. Then all her friends wanted a party when they got theirs, and they had parties for her friends. So, I always thought that story really represents how supportive gay parents can be.
              As a 13 year-old girl, I would have been completely mortified if my father had even mentioned my period.

              But your point is taken.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                As a 13 year-old girl, I would have been completely mortified if my father had even mentioned my period.
                Oh Gawd.

                As much as I love my home state, the most recent thing they've done to completely piss me off is passing a law banning unmarried couples or single people from adopting or fostering children. There was a law passed earlier that specifically targeted gay couples, but that was struck down by the state Supreme Court. Bah.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by joe hx View Post
                  ...
                  1. Gay = pedophile.
                  2. A child raised by someone gay will end up being gay.
                  ...
                  Pedophile does note equal rapist, darn it.

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                  • #10
                    Nothing wrong with it at all and utterly no difference in a kid brought up by gay parents as opposed to straight, to be honest.

                    They aren't going to make the kid gay. You're born gay, you aren't made gay.

                    I mean geez there's vastly more kids that need good homes than there are good homes to go too. I don't see why they should be ruling out anyone provided than can provide a good home to a child.

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                    • #11
                      If a couple wants to adopt and can financially, emotionally, and mentally support a child then their sexual orientation should not be a factor. There are so many children in the foster care system that excluding one good home can put many children at risk. This is also true for adopting. Many states will not limit the number of children a couple can care for and adopt.
                      "Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe" -H. G. Wells

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