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  • #16
    Plus, those pictures are just awesome fodder for when your parents are entertaining the boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse-to-be while you're getting ready for a date.

    Been there, done that.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cats View Post
      Okay, let me just say I will NEVER understand the whole parental facination with taking pics of their kids naked in the bathtub.
      Nor do I, and I never took pics of my son where you could see anything questionable. Not because I was caught up in the whole "nudity=porn" nonsense, but because (a) I knew my son would get pissed off about it when he got older, and (b) I don't think it's right to take naked pictures of someone who can't consent, even in they're not pornographic in any way. I never understood why it was wrong to show a naked adult on TV, who is perfectly capable of consenting, but perfectly fine to show a naked toddler who can not consent.

      That being said, I think there was plenty of overreaction all around. While I don't agree with parents taking pictures of their kids in the nude, it clearly was not pornographic in this case. As someone else pointed out, lots of parents do it, and it's perfectly innocent.
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      • #18
        just a little tid bit I thought was Ironic.

        The little advert on the side of the page had the "daily cutie" and what would you know, it was of a little naken boy just fresh from the bath.

        On another note, I've seen pics of me naked in the bath with my brothers, my cousins, HELL with the next door nieghbors kids. For some reason it seems to be this thing that is just done by parents. It's "cute". I have every reason to believe when I eventually have a few little Monsters..I mean "Darlings" I'll do the same.

        Hell as part of my job I've had to bath children. Does that make me a sex offender because they are not my own? Even if I've been told I have to do it as part of the job?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MadMike View Post
          I never understood why it was wrong to show a naked adult on TV, who is perfectly capable of consenting, but perfectly fine to show a naked toddler who can not consent.
          I'm just guessing here, but I think it has something to do with the idea that a naked adult can cause sexual excitement, whereas a naked child - who hasn't reached full physical maturity - can't. Of course I'm sure there's millions of pedophiles who would beg to differ.

          But yeah, I agree - taking pictures of someone who can't consent is never a good idea, even if it *is* legal.

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          • #20
            I think the distinction comes from the fact that most people couldn't fathom that young children could be seen as sexual at all. Although someone I met after class the other day made an interesting point basically that if the intent of filtering content in mass media and/or broadcast is to, in this case, prevent people who don't want to see sexual content from inadvertently see it while watching TV it only follows that nude pictures of very young children should be treated the same because there are people out there who can see children as sexual and in an equal society they deserve the same treatment.

            It's important to remember that pedophiles are just as likely to be integrally wired to think the way they do as homosexuals are and thus it's not our place to judge their thoughts (call it cognitive liberty) merely their actions. The divide comes from the fact that pedophilic sexual acts inherently consent-less and therefore illegal. It's really no different from the distinction between having a fantasy about killing someone and actually doing it.
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            • #21
              This was an overreaction on everyone's part. Many parents take naked photos of their babies/toddlers. It's just what they do. There are embarrassing naked pics of me when I was a small child hanging on the wall in my parent's home office. We have naked pics of my brother when he was a baby, too.

              When I was a children's photographer, some parents specifically requested the traditional "bathtub" or "buttcheek" photo. Personally, I always thought they were adorable.

              Jeez. People need to get their panties untwisted. Naked does not equal sexual. And if your mind jumps to sexual when confronted with a picture of a baby in a bathtub, go get some freakin' mental help.

              I'm disgusted by the whole situation.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by DesignFox View Post
                Naked does not equal sexual.
                Very true, especially considering some shows like NCIS showing the autopsies.

                Actually why is it ok for them to cut open a naked dead man but not ok to show some breasts.

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                • #23
                  Because Americans are prudes about the nekkid but not about the 'splodies.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by gremcint View Post
                    Very true, especially considering some shows like NCIS showing the autopsies.

                    Actually why is it ok for them to cut open a naked dead man but not ok to show some breasts.
                    They never show exposed breasts or genitalia. They use a super bright light or a modesty cloth to cover all jiggly bits. And besides, the scenes in autopsy aren't sexual at all. (Unless you, like me, have a huge crush on Jimmy Palmer. Rowr.)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
                      They never show exposed breasts or genitalia. They use a super bright light or a modesty cloth to cover all jiggly bits. And besides, the scenes in autopsy aren't sexual at all. (Unless you, like me, have a huge crush on Jimmy Palmer. Rowr.)
                      during a sexual harassment seminar on the show:

                      to Palmer after asking stupid questions: "Why are you touching dead naked bodies?"

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                      • #26
                        I think the wal mart employee was right. I think he did the right thing by reporting the picture. there could have been that one chance that it was a situation that needed to be looked into further. Because it wasn't people can get mad, but if the outcome were the other way around people would probably call the employee a hero of sorts. Seems I'm the only one who thinks this way though...too bad
                        JUST MY opinion

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lovlybones View Post
                          I think the wal mart employee was right. I think he did the right thing by reporting the picture. there could have been that one chance that it was a situation that needed to be looked into further. Because it wasn't people can get mad, but if the outcome were the other way around people would probably call the employee a hero of sorts. Seems I'm the only one who thinks this way though...too bad
                          Sadly I have to agree. The person that works the photo lab has no way of knowing if x photo's belong to mom or dad... in today's society it is all a too prevalent thing to hear about child porn.

                          I do agree that the Child Protective services should be slapped senseless once it was proven that it was their children. But to take it out on Wal-mart... no that is plain stupid... they are required to report certain events. It is the people who's job it is to enforce the laws to take it from there.

                          I would sue the shit out of CPS but wal-mart.... nah

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by lovlybones View Post
                            I think the wal mart employee was right. I think he did the right thing by reporting the picture. there could have been that one chance that it was a situation that needed to be looked into further. Because it wasn't people can get mad, but if the outcome were the other way around people would probably call the employee a hero of sorts. Seems I'm the only one who thinks this way though...too bad
                            I agree with you, but he should have spoken to the parents first. Maybe they wouldn't tell him, but he could have confirmed if they acted sketchy. Rather than just assuming.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kimmik View Post
                              Sadly I have to agree. The person that works the photo lab has no way of knowing if x photo's belong to mom or dad... in today's society it is all a too prevalent thing to hear about child porn.

                              I
                              Well, now, that is a good point. I hadn't thought about it from that angle. If it WASN'T the parents, that puts a whole new spin on things.

                              But yeah, okay. I don't shouldn't really expect a Walmart employee to have to make that call. But CPS? That's their JOB to make that call, and since they seem unable to make one, even in a situation as innocuous at this one, it scares the hell out of me.

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                              • #30
                                I don't like all the american laws making otherwise normal photos or video shots child porn based on what they think the creator was thinking at the time.

                                Seriously, did everyone here know that a guy was arrested for filming a public highschool cheerleading exhibition because he made tight shots of their tight little asses? Because he was likely thinking sexual thoughts, it suddenly became ilegal. Cropping JC Pennys' catalogues can get you labeled for life.

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