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I've never taken an actual iq test and all of the ones I've seen online are bullshit. Every single IQ test I've seen online has questions like: who is the current president, or who was the first president, these are not iq tests they are trivia tests. I can sit in a dark room and never follow current events and still have a high iq. Knowledge does not equal Intelligence.
I can sit in a dark room and never follow current events and still have a high iq. Knowledge does not equal Intelligence.
I think you have a flawed understanding of the term "IQ" then. IQ stands for "Intelligence Quotient," which is your "mental age" divided by your "physical age." Your mental age is determined by how old you'd supposedly have to be to have the rank of knowledge you possess, and your physical age determines the kind of knowledge you'd normally have. If you don't have knowledge, you don't have a high IQ. It's not possible by the very definition of the term. I will grant they've altered the measure, but it's still the same basic concept. If you don't know things, you don't have the IQ.
You did get one thing right, knowledge != intelligence. And intelligence != IQ. Knowledge, however, helps IQ.
Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.
The other study it mentions also links increased rates of spanking to poor economic status. So there's yet another factor to consider. Although the study was funded by the National Institute for Mental Health so doesn't sound like it'd be intentionally biased. Flawed mayhaps, but at least not biased.
Though I'd say the biggest argument against IQ tests is the fact everyone in this thread is apparently a super genius. ^^
I think the problem is differentuating between smacking and beating. In my family, smacking was only given out as a last resort in most cases, or in the case of life threatening behaviour, such as playing with matches. I wasn't smacked very often, as it didn't take me long to realise the difference between right and wrong. Once we were old enough to reason, my parents introduced other punishments instead.
A smack accross the legs or butt is in no way compariable to beating a child accross the head or body like a lot of anti smacking groups seem to believe. Beating a child, especially striking the head, might lower IQ.
"Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."
I was spanked and have severe anxiety and social phobia...
Oh wait, all us smart people should know that anecdotes are not scientifically valid data.
Those that don't believe spanking hurts kids won't believe any study. And the rest of us don't need studies to show what seem obvious.
Hitting people is bad.
I was spanked and have severe anxiety and social phobia...
Oh wait, all us smart people should know that anecdotes are not scientifically valid data.
Those that don't believe spanking hurts kids won't believe any study. And the rest of us don't need studies to show what seem obvious.
Hitting people is bad.
This is why I posted the article. Cause I think people must be lacking in intelligence somewhere, if they fail to understand that hurting a child is unexcusable.
This is why I posted the article. Cause I think people must be lacking in intelligence somewhere, if they fail to understand that hurting a child is unexcusable.
My thoughts in this order:
Insulting people you're trying to convince isn't going to work.
We've got to the heart of your argument. You're clutching at any straw to validate your personal feelings. The argument you presented was pretty weak and I managed to find an alternative explanation for their findings quite easily.
Can we keep to the article in question? I'm sure there are several spanking threads on here already.
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I was spanked as a child, as were my siblings.
We're all a pretty intelligent bunch, actually.
There are too many other factors (genetics or diet, for example) affecting intelligence to say that spanking lowers IQ.
I don't believe in beating a child, and I'm not fond of spanking, but I really fail to see how it lowers IQ.
Anybody can do a study and skew the results to prove their point.
Point to Ponder:
Is it considered irony when someone on an internet forum makes a post that can be considered to look like it was written by a 3rd grade dropout, and they are poking fun of the fact that another person couldn't spell?
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