After 31 years ....

[Peppergirl]

I really don't think he's completely to blame here. And I don't think he should be lumped in with the typical pedophile.

I am going to go look at that list of people who signed, curious if Mia Farrow signed it.

All due respect, who should be blamed then? I can throw some blame at the parents for allowing her to be there. Is that what you mean?

And I already looked. She's not on the list.

[Arcade Man D]

Anyway I think what happened with that girl should not have happened, I really don't think he's completely to blame here.

I don't think you fully grasp what happened here. According to sworn testimony from both his victim and himself, Roman forced himself on a 13 year-old girl with the help of alcohol and drugs. Roman Polanski is 100% to blame, and anyone who says he wasn't has no right to bitch the next time someone says "Well, look at what she was wearing!", because you're letting him use the exact same excuse.

[Flyndaran]

... And I don't think he should be lumped in with the typical pedophile.
....

Your'e are definitely right, because most pedophiles don't actually rape little girls. They learn how to deal with inappropriate feelings, and even then most don't want to rape anyone. They don't want to drug and sodomize children. They usually want an impossible they want it as much as they do situation. This child did not ask for it in any way shape or form. She was forcibly raped by someone she trusted.
How this is not yelled at the mountain tops by everyone as one of the worst forms of rapis is beyond me.

[Gravekeeper]

Anyway I think what happened with that girl should not have happened, I really don't think he's completely to blame here. And I don't think he should be lumped in with the typical pedophile.

He is utterly and entirely to blame. This is why I can't understand anyone being on the fence about this. He got a 13 year old girl drunk, drugged her with date rape drugs and than performed oral sex, rape and sodomy on her while she pleaded with him to stop.

It is ENTIRELY his fucking fault and 30 years does not make it ok in any way shape or form.

Everyone on that petition list is out of their goddamn mind. ><

[IDrinkaRum]

Yes, but GK ... he's never ever done it since! It was a one time deal. He was ... feeling sorry for himself that day ... couldn't find any adult woman to agree to have sex with him. Not even the girl's mother ... so he did what he had to do. <---- all sarcasm, btw ... just in case no one got that.

French people & government turning their back on Polanski

Kirstie Alley even blasts Polanski's supporters

[kibbles]

Eh, I just look forward to when we will hear the end of this. Or will this be one of those never ending trials?

[Rapscallion]

I'm sort of waiting for a trial where the defence tried to claim that he's too pretty for jail...

Rapscallion

[AdminAssistant]

The only thing that really bothers me is that Polanski is getting a "media trial" before his real one. We can all offer our opinions, but it's up to the various international courts to make the final decision.

As to whoever mentioned Elia Kazan....in those days, any artist who showed public support for Kazan (or Arthur Miller or anyone else targeted by McCarthy) risked finding themselves in front of the Committee on Un-American Activities. Slightly different circumstances. It's one thing to risk your popularity or fan base; it's quite another to forced by the government into early retirement or prison.

[Slytovhand]

Can I come in and resurrect this thread???

Well, tough - I just have!

Anyway, I'm with the 'send him down' crowd.

Yes, BJ, it does send a message to people - a message that some people are already too familiar with... if you do a crime, all you have to do is run away to some safe little haven, and it will be forgotten about. We already know that's what goes through some people's minds... that's why Thailand and Cambodia were little hotspots of paedophilia.. because many men thought they could just go there and do their little heart's content without any repercussions (fortunately, that's a little harder now).

So, letting Roman off will send a message to some people that, yes, all you have to do is just wait out your time, and you'll have nothing to worry about.

They guy ran... surely that's a crime enough in itself that he should be brought in for? (no, not saying that rape isn't, nor paedophilia... cos that's what it is... sodomy?? nah, can't actually buy that argument, actually... otherwise you've just opened a new can of worms regarding anal sex - I think the rape is enough to cover that side of things quite nicely, thank you!) so - sentence him for the original crime for which he has been found guilty (and the victim doesn't need to say a word), and then also for running!


I haven't yet read any 'argument' that indicates why he should really not serve his time - none at all.... I've heard a call for leniency - but that's not really an argument for freedom.

[blas87]

Not to totally derail the thread, but things need to change.

Running away does not solve anything, and should have harsher punishments. We need to do something about these loopholes that keep people safe if they run away from a crime they've committed.

Way in the extended extended part of my family (the dreaded inbreds), one of my whateverith cousin's wife recently just got her 5th DUI. As I've stated before on other threads, DUI is not a felony in Wisconsin until the 5th one.

As soon as she was let out of jail, she ran off (ok, flew off) to Alaska. And she refuses to come back.

And no, they can't just go get her and bring her back and make her go to court and serve her time.

[Peppergirl]

Did anyone see where Star Jones is now saying Polanski was 'allowed to rape because he's white'.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_317817.html

[Rapscallion]

Did anyone see where Star Jones

Who?

I just hit google and found out ... very little, really.

Rapscallion

[kibbles]

Who?

I agree with this 100% because Star Jones is practically invisible now, until she says something to keep herself in the spotlight. I think the spotlight has already faded on her, sorry to let her know.

Other than that, I have nothing more to add than I already did

[Peppergirl]

Yeah, I never said she wasn't a has-been (never been) and a nobody, just found it amusing that she's popping up out of no where in an attempt to stir-the-pot.

[Rapscallion]

I agree with this 100% because Star Jones is practically invisible now, until she says something to keep herself in the spotlight. I think the spotlight has already faded on her, sorry to let her know.

Other than that, I have nothing more to add than I already did

I think it's more required of me to say that I'd genuinely never heard of her.

Rapscallion