The ACLU

[guywithashovel]

In more complete terms, the American Civil Liberties Union.

Is it a good organization? Do they provide good services to America? Or are they an evil entity covertly run by Satan himself? Or maybe they fall somewhere in between?

I spent five years working for Wal-Mart, and during this time, I very rarely heard anyone say anything good about them. Wal-Mart is not a very big fan of this organization.

[BroomJockey]

Wal-Mart is not a very big fan of this organization.

Duh, they have "union" in the name. Wal-Mart would gather every member up and shoot them in to space if they could.

[Tanasi]

If all ACLU chapters supported all civil rights then I'd think them to be less evil but most only support the civil right in vogue du jure. Some chapters are also of the "The Constitution is a living breathing document" mind.

[BlaqueKatt]

but most only support the civil right in vogue du jure.

um no that's what you read in the paper because it is "en vogue"

they're always busy-just not always "high-Profile" or "newsworthy" cases-also not all cases need to go to court-often times a strongly worded letter from the ACLU's attorneys settles the issue, and who wants to read about that?

Nearly 200 ACLU staff attorneys and thousands of volunteer attorneys handle countless civil liberties cases every year.

[Tanasi]

um no that's what you read in the paper because it is "en vogue"

they're always busy-just not always "high-Profile" or "newsworthy" cases-also not all cases need to go to court-often times a strongly worded letter from the ACLU's attorneys settles the issue, and who wants to read about that?

Nearly 200 ACLU staff attorneys and thousands of volunteer attorneys handle countless civil liberties cases every year.

I don't doubt the national ACLU does do more but as I said some chapters only support certain rights over others. The local chapter generally deals with race issues and let other issues go by.

[BroomJockey]

"The Constitution is a living breathing document" mind.

Sure got enough amendments if it's not...

[Depot Denizen]

I like the ACLU for some things. I completely disagree with most chapters' stance on the 2nd Amendment. In that, the typical line is that it's a state right and not an individual right. Supreme Court has said otherwise, but they haven't changed their mind.

[Tanasi]

Sure got enough amendments if it's not...

I don't have a problem with the Constitution being amended because there's a process for it and it takes a long time and there's a good chance it will fail.
My problem with the "Living Breathing Document" arguement is they want to interpret. Why does "the people" in one admendment mean individuals but in the second it means something else? Luckily the Heller decision shot down that arguement.

[Tanasi]

I like the ACLU for some things. I completely disagree with most chapters' stance on the 2nd Amendment. In that, the typical line is that it's a state right and not an individual right. Supreme Court has said otherwise, but they haven't changed their mind.

I heard for years that the militia meant the national guard, funny thing was the NG is a 20th century invention and wasn't thought of in the 18th century. Luckily the Heller decision made that moot.

[Flyndaran]

I don't care about what people means in the 2nd ammendment. Arms meant something very different.

[guywithashovel]

Duh, they have "union" in the name. Wal-Mart would gather every member up and shoot them in to space if they could.

Yeah, I know. I think the ACLU has harped on Wal-Mart for not bringing in unions.