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    OK, the article I'm posting up doesn't explain the story quite clearly.
    Basically, what happened was that a mother had taken the brakes off of her pram at a train station. Due to the way in which the platform was set up, the pram (with child in it) rolled into the path of an oncoming train. The baby survived with a bump. (hence miracle)

    The article I'm posting up here has the mother's views on it.

    http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

    OK, basically the points I'm wanting to ask are:

    1) Do you think the mother is or will milk it for all its worth?
    2) Was it an accident, stupidity or deliberation?

  • #2
    It was an accident. Pure and simple. Who expects a stroller to go rolling off like that? She took her hands off the handles for a split second to adjust her pants and the stroller was gone. I feel nothing but sympathy for that woman. I can't imagine seeing a train hit my child's stroller and thinking anything but "I just killed my child"...even as a tragic mistake, that feeling alone is punishment enough.

    I don't really understand how the woman could "milk" this accident? The article you linked was mostly just her point of view of what happened. It's not like she can seek compensation from the railroad. I mean, she might give more interviews...but if your baby survived what appears to be impossible odds, wouldn't you be shouting to the rooftops how thankful you are that he's alive?
    - Kim

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    • #3
      The mere thought makes me sick to my stomach. I'm so glad the baby was okay.

      I don't really see how the situation could be "milked", and there's no indication whatsoever that the mother is neglectful or evil.

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      • #4
        Apologies for being vague on the "milking" part. By that I meant that she's going to use the incident for financial or other gains.

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        • #5
          There have been a few incidents in the past where a pram has rolled off into a dangerous situation and unfortunately the child has drowned or died. Nowadays, all prams sold in my state (I think it's just my state) require wrist tethers to prevent this sort of situation happening...

          Of course, people latch onto that and look what happens....
          Last edited by Ree; 10-31-2009, 05:04 PM.

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          • #6
            See, when people say "It's a publicity stunt" or "She's clearly going to milk this for money", I get angry. Not at you guys for saying it, but because dickheads like balloon boy's parents cause people to assume that kind of shit these days.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fireheart17 View Post
              Nowadays, all prams sold in my state (I think it's just my state) require wrist tethers to prevent this sort of situation happening...

              Of course, people latch onto that and look what happens....
              Of course, we have to provide wrist tethers, cause the parents are still children themselves and have yet to master such things like gripping. When are we going to treat parents like the adults they are, instead of the children we allow them to act like?
              Last edited by Ree; 10-31-2009, 05:09 PM. Reason: merging consecutive posts

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              • #8
                Originally posted by violetyoshi
                Of course, we have to provide wrist tethers, cause the parents are still children themselves and have yet to master such things like gripping. When are we going to treat parents like the adults they are, instead of the children we allow them to act like?

                How about treating parents like human beings when they make a mistake? It's not like she was intentionally neglecting her baby. Just because you are a parent doesn't automatically make you a perfect person who never does anything wrong. I'm curious why you think this woman was a total moron in regards to parenting? She let go of the stroller handle for a split second, something anyone could have done, and something bad happened. That doesn't make her stupid, or childish, or a bad parent. I'm confused as to why you think this one horrible, freak accident speaks for this woman's parenting as a whole.
                - Kim

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                • #9
                  Parents are asked to be perfect every second of every day. As if procreating has somehow turned them into something other than a normal, flawed human beings.

                  Mistakes happen to everyone. Why string this woman up for hers?

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                  • #10
                    I guess being responsible for another life, isn't such a big deal these days.

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                    • #11
                      So, Violetyoshi, you ever fuck up? Ever make some kind of mistake you later regretted? Ever have a brain fart or a physically clumsy moment? Have you ever failed at something, even for a moment, and then later beat yourself up over it? Ever made a bad judgement call?

                      Have you ever been wrong?


                      I don't mean if you ever fumbled your television remote control or missed something playing a computer game. I mean in real life. Ever do that?


                      I am bracing myself for what will surely be an extremely eloquent silence.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RecoveringKinkoid View Post
                        I am bracing myself for what will surely be an extremely eloquent silence.
                        Or a catchy one-liner that either totally misses the point, has no bearing on the conversation at hand, or makes no sense whatsoever.
                        - Kim

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                        • #13
                          I have to say, on the whole, I feel terrible for parents these days. Parents are still human. They still make mistakes. It's tragic enough if they get a scare, or worse, have their mistake end up being deadly. Then the rest of the world jumps down their throat and judges them...as if having made the mistake wasn't a terrible enough ordeal to begin with.
                          "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
                          "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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                          • #14
                            Exactly. I think everyone jumps down their throats because they don't want to think that if they do everything right, if they just pay attention the best they can, if they are just careful, something horrible can't happen to them.

                            People who want to be good parents need to believe it. They need to believe that because the reality of it all is too much to bear and will drive you mad. And the reality is that it only takes a nanosecond of inattention, of basic human distraction, for something bad to happen.

                            Jaimie Bulger's mom looked away long enough to sign a credit slip. Adam Walch
                            s dad turned his back long enough to put a suitcase into the trunk of his car. I've personally had someone speak to me, I look up to give a two word answer, and then for several awful, stomach churning seconds, not realize my kid has wandered behind me and thus I don't see her.

                            I've seen kids at the daycare snatch their hand away from their harried mom, and head straight for the door and the extremely busy parking lot. It takes literally one second. I turned my head in a store once, literally to GLANCE at price tag, turned around and my kid was standing up in the cart. On the seat. Here I am, so damn paranoid and fearful that I never take my hand off the cart, and I turn around after literally a one or two second glance to find the kid standing up on the seat over a concrete floor. If she'd have fallen, she would have done so less than six inches from my hand.

                            This shit keeps parents up at night. This is the shit that ages us faster than anything other factor on earth.

                            The reality is that no matter what we do, sometimes it's not enough. Because the world is bigger and badder than all of us.

                            So for everyone who has no kids and wants to stand and judge? You speak out of ignorance and foolishness. For those that do and still want to judge? Pray to whatever force you choose that you are given a moment of mercy the next time you fuck up with your kid. Because, brothers and sisters, your day is coming sure as death and taxes.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by violetyoshi View Post
                              Of course, we have to provide wrist tethers, cause the parents are still children themselves and have yet to master such things like gripping. When are we going to treat parents like the adults they are, instead of the children we allow them to act like?
                              What if comes out that the mother has Asperger's Syndrome, or some other Autism Spectrum disorder? Would you give her the benefit of the doubt then? I hope so, seeing as how it's pretty obvious from your other posts that you expect the world to walk on eggshells around you because you have Asperger's and/or some other Autism Spectrum Disorder.

                              Do you get the hint that I'm trying to make here, violetyoshi?

                              Don't get me wrong, people should, to some extent, give you the benefit of the doubt because of what you have. However, the distribution of the benefit of the doubt is a two-way street. You should, to some extent, give other people the benefit of the doubt, too. We're all human. We all make mistakes sometimes. And while I'm not a parent myself, I'm observant enough to know that bad things can happen if you turn away for even a moment. As was pointed out earlier, several famous abduction cases happened to responsible parents who just got distracted for a moment.

                              I really hate to come off as though I'm being a condescending jerk and giving you a lecture, but I really do think you should try to give other people some of the consideration that you expect so strongly from others.
                              Last edited by guywithashovel; 10-30-2009, 11:26 PM.

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