Can humanity improve itself

[Boozy]

In the Victorian era, for example, there was little to no sex crime the way there is today. There were rapes true, and degenerates attacking children...

What is a sex crime if not rape or molestation of minors?

[tendomentis]

I suppose a more to the point question would be if humanity has the desire or ability to evolve to whatever the next step is.

For the record, I have no problem with homosexuality. One of my friends is bi, and I have no problem with that. But from a strictly evolutionary standpoint, homosexuality would always be a dead end as the couple would be unable to procreate with each other.

And that's fine. To that couple, being happy together out-weighs the biological desire for procreation (not the act, but the end result anyway). And homosexual couples can always adopt a child or use in vitro to produce a child that is at least 1/2 a genetic offspring of the couple.

I think to evolve to the next level, humanity would need to shed sexuality altogether. It's a vestigial, instinctual drive predating human sapience. Our ancestor's alpha males once killed off any potential rivals and then would mate with that competitor's mate....we don't do that anymore either. Sure, the drive is still there, and exists in some form in our psyche, but overall we evolved past that.

Obviouisly, as long as humanity is a biological species, breeding still needs to happen, but humanity's preocupation (yes, preocupation as that topic dominates our media) with coupling/mating is something that would likely need to be evolved beyond if we were to truly go to the next level.

Some would argue, what would be the point without that, but I would argue that if we understood the point of evolving past that, we would already be there.

[Lace Neil Singer]

I guess I didn't explain it well. What I was trying to say is that serial killers like the whole Bundy/Dahmer perversion didn't exist back then. Most serious crimes were against property or to get money, cuz there was a far bigger divide between the rich and poor than now. Also, there was none of the rampant sexalisation of everyone and everything that there is now, and yes, there were sex killers, but not like Bundy, Dahmer et all. Jack the Ripper was considered the first, cuz he had no recognisable motive, he seemed to attack randomly, and there was no way of finding out where and when he'd strike next. Dunno if that's any clearer.

[rahmota]

Seshat: I sincerely hope the forces doing al that get better at it. the rate of false positives and the overreaction some of the agencies do is almost as bad as the things they are supposed to prevent.

Tendo: I'm not really sure I understand or agree with your point about sexuality needing to be evolved past. I'll agree the obsession with whose zooming who is a bit excessive in modern society and especially for those who are uptight and say it has to be the proper type of relations. So I'd say its the bad attitudes that need to be evolved past.

Boozy: Yeah I would agree those are definately archtypical sex crimes.

Lace: its a bit clearer I think. By comparison to modern crime statistics there where more property crimes. But is that a result of there being more of those sort of crimes or the perception that it is a crime changing?

Jack was a special case yes. There where several other violent mass murderers in the similar period and before hand. Jack was not caught and he was the first the media sensationalized. Mass murder has been around for quite some time in singular or organized forms.

[Seshat]

Seshat: I sincerely hope the forces doing al that get better at it. the rate of false positives and the overreaction some of the agencies do is almost as bad as the things they are supposed to prevent.

I know someone who was accused, and later cleared. I watched how much it devastated his life. We as a species HAVE to get better at handling these problems!

There are a lot of things we're novices at handling, still. Mental disorders, some forms of illness - heck, even just living in mega-cities. We'll get there, but it'll take us a time.