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  • Animals Don't do That.

    I have heard, seen and read in numerous places about how much better animals are than humans because we humans do stupid crap and treat each other like crap while animals don't.


    Well to be quite frank they actually do.
    Tons of Animals eat or abandon their young. Numerous insects kill their mates. Plenty of animals will kill you with a hair trigger (get to close, make a loud noise, you are just there).

    Numerous predators will eat animals and people alive or kill in the most gruesome fashion possible. There are numerous attacks on humans that do actually happen without the human being at fault. Animals will kill just for being in their territory.

    Even animals we consider cute and domesticated. House cats are insane, we give them food and water each day and they still chase smaller animals. My sister's cat has killed a few mice and not eaten any of them, heck she told me she came home one day and the cat was laying on the ground next to a half dead bird like it was the most normal thing in the world.

    Animals have power struggles within their groups and perform actions for social advantage. Animals also rape and forcibly impregnate mates sometimes (I've seen it in documentaries).

    Here's an example of one Chimp hat was an outright lunatic:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasakel...ommunity#Frodo
    Bullying:
    Even from a young age, Frodo was large and aggressive. He learned to throw rocks as a juvenile, sometimes throwing them at and hitting and bruising his human observers.
    Stealing:
    was also able to intimidate other chimpanzees into sharing their kills with him if he was unsuccessful.
    Power Struggle:
    while Freud and other community members were suffering from sarcoptic mange, Frodo defeated Freud and attained the alpha male position.
    Violence, Murder and Incest:
    Frodo's aggression has not been limited to colobus monkeys and other chimpanzees. In May 2002, he killed a 14 month old human baby that the niece of a member of the research team had carried into his territory.[29] As a result, the Tanzanian National Parks Department considered euthanizing Frodo.[29] In 1988, he attacked cartoonist Gary Larson, leaving him bruised and scratched.[29] In 1989, he attacked Dr. Goodall, beating her head to the point of nearly breaking her neck.[29]

    Frodo has been successful at fathering infants.[30] Infants he has fathered have included:

    Fred (1996–1997), by his own mother Fifi[17]
    While there are communities of animals who do take care of each other we are the only species I know of that will help those born with birth defects so debilitating that they may spend their entire life unable to move or speak or hear or see. Animals with those defects would usually be forced to fend for themselves.

    Animals are sexist in that each gender has defined roles, Animals can be dumb such as Pandas not mating and going extinct. Animals are territorial, agressive, insensitive and dangerous.

    We aren't perfect and neither are they.

    (I did like no research for this aside from the chimpanzee but I can definitley name examples if it came down to it.)

  • #2
    For an example of animals raping each other, frogs, when mating, have the females pick the males. It's based on the deepness of their croak. So the males with higher pitched croaks don't get picked. So what they do is just kinda hide there and when a female frog swims by...POW.

    I learned this in my general biology course. You can tell I didn't get much out of that course.
    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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    • #3
      One comment and one comment only:

      Humans are animals.

      That is all.

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      • #4
        And humans are supposed to be intelligent and "moral."


        For the record, I don't think all animals are better than all humans. Though the furry bastards (known as my cats) still are better than most humans I met

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        • #5
          Oh my favorite argument by Animal Rights crazy people is that animals don't kill for fun.

          I remember watching a lovely video about Orca whales in my high school Oceanography class. God help you if you are born a seal and end up in the midst of a bored pod of Orcas. Yes, they eat seals. However they also like to play volleyball with seals. o_O
          "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
          "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DesignFox View Post
            I remember watching a lovely video about Orca whales in my high school Oceanography class. God help you if you are born a seal and end up in the midst of a bored pod of Orcas. Yes, they eat seals. However they also like to play volleyball with seals. o_O
            Same could be said about cats. Almost every cat that I know of kills a mouse playing with it, they don't eat it (unless they're starving)

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            • #7
              I wish I remembered what documentary it was, I'd find it and post a link....but the house cat is supposed to be the "best" and "most successful" hunter because they don't need to kill to eat, they do it out of instinct, and have wide variety of prey.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mr Slugger View Post
                Same could be said about cats. Almost every cat that I know of kills a mouse playing with it, they don't eat it (unless they're starving)
                Oh I've seen the cats at the farm play with their prey...baby rabbits make the most heart-renching sounds when they are being attacked. By the time I figured out what the cat was doing it was a little too late for me to do anything about it. I mean, the cats are there to get the varmints...but I felt bad for the baby bunny.
                "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
                "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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                • #9
                  I will refer you to the following link for evidence. Yes, I know it's cracked.com but the points still work.

                  http://www.cracked.com/article_15853...stroy-you.html

                  It turns out in the real world, hippos fucking kill people.

                  There's this word, "territorial," that nature takes pretty seriously. When it's applied to a two-ton animal with teeth the size of bowling pins, that is one hell of a word. The sort of word you either pay very close attention to, or ignore and end up with a complimentary "Killed to death by a fucking hippo" tombstone. That sort of thing is really embarrassing for the family, you know?

                  The next time you settle in for a game of Hungry Hungry Hippos, take a moment to to reflect on the small fact that hippopotamuses kill more humans per year than any other animal in the entire continent of Africa. Only elephants are consistently larger than hippos, and only the Warner Brothers' Tasmanian Devil is more consistently aggressive.
                  Yup; the hippotamus is a flipping psycho that will destroy any creature, animal or human, who strays into its territory. Don't bother thinking, "I can outrun that wobbly hunk of blubber easily!", cuz you can't. It's not called a "river horse" for nothing, you know. It can catch up to you and squash you flat, if it doesn't use its huge tusks to make mincemeat out of you.

                  That is not a grin. What that is, see, is a mouthful of very large teeth being bared. Right at you.

                  The chimp is attempting to inform you that you are invading his space. If you do not understand this, the chimp would be happy to further elaborate. With that mouthful of very fucking large teeth. While smashing his very long and extremely strong arms about your head and shoulders, grabbing your hair and slamming your head into things. All the while shrieking a vicious symphony of noise that is calling all his buddies over to beat you until you cannot grow anymore. Following which, they will pelt you with feces.
                  Why else are Longleat's chimps kept on an island? The reason is cuz since chimps can't swim, it means that they're not about to get loose and tear the shit out of all the visitors. Male chimps especially are really aggressive; they're also stronger than the strongest human ever and will tear your face and genitals off in the wink of an eye. Don't believe me? Click here and here and for good measure, here. This isn't a cute and cuddly critter, it's a fucking homical maniac.

                  For the last 17 years or so, marine biologists have begun paying a great deal of attention to dead baby dolphins and porpoises of all ages washing up ashore, and we quote, 'mangled in unexpected ways.'

                  The discovery that Bottlenose Dolphins were occasionally viciously reconfiguring their own children wasn't really all that much of a big deal. Humans are the only species on the planet that actually gives even a tiny shit about infanticide. It was what the dolphins were doing to the porpoises that entered the domain of the 'seriously fucked-up'.

                  Thirteen-foot male Bottlenose Dolphins were hunting down porpoises, beating to death and then playing with their corpses, all for no readily apparent reason. At the time of this writing, the majority opinion of the marine science community was that this breathtakingly savage interspecies homicide is for--and this is Science, here--shits 'n' giggles.
                  There have also been reports of dolphins attempting to rape female swimmers. Click here and here. Flipper, this ain't. Dolphins are also extremely aggressive, and yup, they do kill porpoises and play with the corpses. Not for food, just for kicks.
                  "Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."

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                  • #10
                    Hippos are very frightening. I watched a documentary about them when I was a child and had nightmares for weeks.

                    I agree that it's of course ridiculous to say that animals don't kill for sport. A few years ago my mom had a problem with her neighbour's cat killing the finches around her bird feeder. This cat was overfed and had constant access to food at home. It killed because it was in it's nature to do so. That's neither good nor bad, honourable nor dishonourable. It's just the way things are.

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                    • #11
                      Animals do things that if a Human were to do would be branded a menance to society & be treated accordingly. I've watched nature shows & a lot of what's presented isn't pretty. It can be rather gruesome to watch but that's the way it really is out in the wild. We Humans think we're better than all that cause we think we couldn't possibly be capable of doing nasty stuff like that but it happens everyday.
                      IF animals could talk they would let us know that not only are we no better than they are but that we're actually worse.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                        Hippos are very frightening. I watched a documentary about them when I was a child and had nightmares for weeks.
                        Bet this didn't help:

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBfi8OEz0rA

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                        • #13
                          Wouldn't it be just plain odd if a t-rex was cloned and it turned out to be quite docile in comparison?

                          I once caught my parents former cat with a toy mouse on one side of her and a dead mouse on the other. "Ooh! New toy! And this one actually runs! Aww, he ain't runnin' no more. Bored, now."
                          "I take it your health insurance doesn't cover acts of pussy."

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                          • #14
                            Also, lions. The human equivilent of how lions act when they take over a pride is if a guy met a single mum and murdered all her kids. O_o
                            "Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lace Neil Singer View Post
                              Also, lions. The human equivilent of how lions act when they take over a pride is if a guy met a single mum and murdered all her kids. O_o
                              I saw a special about that either on Discovery or Animal Planet. They kill all the infant lions so the females will go into heat (which they do in fairly short order) and get pregnant with their own offspring.

                              Disturbing...

                              Lions are also pretty much the assholes of the Savannah. They aren't as noble as portrayed. They also steal from weaker predators given the opportunity.
                              "Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
                              "And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter

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