Animals Don't do That.

[blas87]

Why are you guys in so deep on this? Animals are animals.....it's the circle of life and how they are. It's not like humans where we are supposed to be taught that it's wrong to kill others, it's wrong to torture others.....

Anyone who would be ignorant enough to say that animals are better than humans and not as sick as us would be horribly wrong, but we all already know many tendencies of animals. It's how they work.

I'm not saying people here are advocating it, but if anyone were, I dare any of you to try to stop a male lion from killing the babies, or to stop some Orcas from killing a seal. Have fun!

[Lace Neil Singer]

I think you're missing the point. The original question was "People say animals are better than humans cuz they don't murder/rape etc" and we are answering it. If anyone's looking deeply into it, it's you.

I quoted a Cracked article, ffs.

[Nyoibo]

I say animals are better than people because although they do that, it's on instinct with no understanding of consequences or cause and effect, humans do it with full knowledge.

[blas87]

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[gremcint]

I was not calling animals eveil, I was not saying they would be good or evil at all. I was talking about how people will say that humans are worse than animals because animals don't do blah act when they actually do commit blah act rather regualrly.


however in regards to the evil thing, if an animal raping another animal is not evil because they don't have a concept of good and evil then how can you say that any act is evil as it requires the perpetrator to consider it to be evil for it to be evil. There is a certain portion of the population that would still commit an act that they consider to be evil but a lot of them alos would not consider it evil. If listening to instincts is not evil then why is rape evil, some people have instincts that tell them to fuck anything on two legs with tits (I was a teenager and testerone can do some weird things to your mind, I never did do those things but the instinct is still there). Humans have instincts all the time to do this stuff, if giving into instincts would be evil for us then why isn't it evil for animals? don't try to argue intelligence, animals have been able to understand human speech and learn sign language.

[alowlypotato]

don't try to argue intelligence, animals have been able to understand human speech and learn sign language.

When it can be proved that they possess the level of intelligence necessary to understand the concepts of "good" and "evil," and to then be able to differentiate between the two, you'll have a point.

Humans can differentiate between the two (most of us can, anyway; there's a reason why those among us who can't tend to be so dangerous). And we also have reached a point where we have transcended instinct in terms of our survival needs. Take society, for instance. Not civilization; just society, in its simplest form. Humans need the protection and cooperation of a community, however small, in order to survive. Society is a grand, shared illusion; its rules have some basis in the hard facts of reality, but for the most part, they're invented. We can question those rules and if we can gather enough people to our cause, then we can change them. Animals form communities, but not like that. They don't develop customs or traditions. They don't change the rules; they can't, they're bound to them by instinct in a way that we are not. They might be able to pick up language (and some have doubts that those chimps who've apparently been taught sign language are actually doing anything beyond rote memorization), but there's no way you're going to get even a group of highly intelligent chimps to form a complex society akin to ours. They don't have the mental capacity for it.

So, why don't we just follow instinct? Because we've become smarter than that. Because so much of what we do on a daily basis is not instinctive. Because if someone did decide to go around acting on every instinctive impulse, then at best, they'd cause a scene, and at worst, they'd get arrested. Because, well, the biggest difference between us and other animals is that we've managed to come up with a way of surviving that requires the majority of the population to consciously control its instincts.