Those against pedophilia are being harassed by pedophiles

[IDrinkaRum]

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...cclellan1.html

From what I read, they want to shut up those who are against pedophilia. They want their "lifestyle" to be public and accepted and are now threatening those who would speak out and say they must stop.

[CancelMyService]

Well it's not surprising that those who think pedophilia is a normal lifestyle are also completely batshit crazy.

Also, they can't find out who the guy snapping pictures at the courthouse was because he left in a taxi? What kind of Keystone Cops do they have working out there?

[AFPheonix]

Behold, the darkside of the internet, where sickos find each other and find strength in their newfound numbers.
No more shall the freak who likes to wear poopy diapers live in shame, thinking he is the only one, for there are other nasty people who share his same love! So shall it be for other perverts, including dicks who get off on underage kids of either gender.

[CancelMyService]

Man, did anyone check out the site of the pedo in that story? I wouldn't blame you if you didn't but one of his claims is the show "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader" proves the "anti pedos" are wrong when they say young kids can't make informed choices about sex.

Yeaaaaaaaaah........ cause quiz show answers = the emotional development needed for sexual consent.

I need a shower.

[IDrinkaRum]

Sorry CMS about making you feel dirty.

However, I agree with you - I did need a shower after reading all that and going to the websites.

This just really made me mad. For those who know me from CS.com, I've got a 4 year old daughter, who IMHO, is absolutely gorgeous but she doesn't have a large vocabulary & is friends with just about everyone she meets. I go into parental overdrive and if some pervert had my daughter's picture on his website & telling other pervs how to find her, I'd be on the bandwagon trying to get the site shut down, getting a restraining order against the guy, etc., etc. And if the pedos tried to intimidate/persecute me, I'd be giving them all I can right back.

Sorry about my soap box there, but it's something I'm passionate about.

[CancelMyService]

Seriously, there must be some pretty impotent law enforcement in that area. Pedo stuff aside, it seems like there was a lot of harrassment going on, and that one guy is telling people the best place to stare at/take pics of "LG's".

But to be honest, what can you do if someone has pedophilic desires but hasn't actually done anything? It's pretty much maximum creep factor to think someone's scoping out schoolyards and playgrounds, but they seem to be very aware of the legal boundries and stay within them.

[Rapscallion]

Ah, the good old right to free speech. Can't he say what he wants and people defend his right to do so until death?

Actually, I don't know where the US law stands on that, though I do know that NAMBLA (the North American Man Boy Love Association) is apparently very careful in what they say.

A few years ago, one of the Pythons was being interviewed and asked about how attitudes to comedy have changed. He said that in the seventies, the BBC examined their scripts, and when they came across a place where his hobbies were asked about, he had to answer, "Killing small animals, molesting small children, and masturbation." The editors refused to allow him to put 'masturbation' in there.

Now I've condemned myself, I'd better put my personal point of view out there. I don't condone paedophilia - indeed, I am firmly of the mind that such people are sick and twisted, and their remaining days should be spent in solitary confinement. I rather like the UK's law in that it won't allow propogation of the act through the written word, not like the US's stance on free speech allowing filth like that to exist. However, the statistics (as far as they are gatherable in any 'secret' crime, and for as long as they are created) show that the rate of paedophilia crimes have remained constant. The media used to give this much attention to drink drivers - it managed to stop quite a few people, I'm pleased to say, and society's attitude has changed on the topic. What I'm seeing now is hysteria.

Hysteria such as this is why I - off the Internet a natural loner - cannot really go for a walk in the park. Single man, mid to late thirties, alone in an area where children naturally congregate? I'd be the subject of too much suspicion to make it worthwhile. I do not allow myself to go to places where I could be accused - a false accusation is just as bad as a real accusation.

It's come to the point, though, that I'm jaded by claims. One anti-paedophilia group claimed that one in every nine children has been sexually abused, or affected by a child abuser, or something along those lines. I suspect their definitions were a touch broad, though I never looked too deeply into it. I remember thinking that the homosexual lobby claimed a rate of one in ten*, and had managed to make headway into being accepted as normal, but one in nine is actually more, so is it more normal than being gay and therefore more acceptable?

We all know that people in large groups can act stupidly. The McCarthy era was one such occasion - hysteria founded the blacklisting of many people who were encouraged to turn in their friends. Customers on Black Friday, obsessed by the thoughts of a cheap deal, will trample their own underfoot - and there is plenty of hilarious footage to prove this.

We've got the message. Paedophilia is wrong. Let's not just turn it into a witch hunt in the original sense of the word.

As a side note, from what I understand, this is a psychological problem, and opinion is divided as to whether or not it can be treated. The UK and the US both have plenty of people who are mentally ill out on the streets, some of whom are a danger to the public. Think on that for a while.

Rapscallion

* The Kinsey report was bollocks, I know. Asking people who were freshly out of jail if they'd recently had sex with someone of the same gender...

[rahmota]

I'm a parent and I'll agree that if someone was thinking of one of my children that way there would definately be some "harrassment" going on redneck style to persuede them to look elsewhere. So i can fully agree and understand you idrinkrum. Believe me.

On the flip side I can also understand and rationalize that as long as they have not broken any laws they have just as much right to say what they want to. Their thoughts and words may be sick, twisted and very very uncomfortable but still legal, for the most part.

I'll agree with Raps about how hysteria and withc hunts can grow out of fear and ignorance and goups pushing hot buttons with people resulting in knee jerk reactions. Generally not a good thing. One reason why people need to take personal responsibility for their children and watch out whats going on i their lives. I know you cant be everywhere but teaching the children whats appropriate and inapropriate and keping a trust with the child so they will come and talk to you about anything going on is some of the most important things a parent can do.

as for treatment for their actions. I'm not sure that can work or should be considered. My personal views on treatment of pedophiles involves a rope and a tall tree.

still though the pedos tread on very dangerous ground and I have no pity on a pedophile who crosses the line into actions and gets caught.

[IDrinkaRum]

Let me say, I do not believe in witch hunts per se against any group of people.

I know there used to be a registered sex offender near my house. I'm not sure if he still lives near me. I know there was a petition going around to get him out of the neighborhood and there was talking of "getting to know him", per se. I didn't want anything to do with that.

I doubt pedos can be rehabbed. Rapists also, I don't believe can be rehabbed. But if they make an honest effort at living like us "normal" people, then I think they should be given the benefit of the doubt (to a point).

But if they start stalking people/girls/boys/men/women and then posting it on the internet, then all bets are off.

[Seshat]

I used to know a guy who ended up entrusting a secret to me. He found himself attracted to children.

He told me it was something he struggled with every day. Never had done anything. Never intended to. He'd talked to therapists about it, tried to get rid of the feeling.

Nothing he or therapists had tried ever stopped him from wanting to (at least at the time I knew him). But he was careful never to act on it.

I found myself unsure exactly how to react. But in the end I decided that I respect him. How that desire rose in him, I'll never know. He may never know. Maybe it's genetic, maybe it's something in his past. But how he's dealing with it - I respect that.

As long as they don't act on it or advocate it, I think they're just people who've been burdened with a dangerous attraction. Those who act on it, however - that's totally different.


As for Raps' point about the overreaction, I agree with that, too. We should be able to have male kindergarten teachers, male childcare workers, men flying kites and playing frisbee in the parks. Suspicion on all men regardless of their actions demeans and weakens us all.