Well it was easier

[Greenday]

I happen to find that example ironic. The only difference is that some crimes aren't so comparable. If a crime actually hurts someone, I expect it to be enforced. It's like a civil suit. There should be damages. Doing 60 in a 65 hurts no one. Drunk driving does. So which deserves actual focus?

[Nyoibo]

I happen to find that example ironic. The only difference is that some crimes aren't so comparable. If a crime actually hurts someone, I expect it to be enforced. It's like a civil suit. There should be damages. Doing 60 in a 65 hurts no one. Drunk driving does. So which deserves actual focus?

Actually neither of those hurts anyone else, unless someone has anaccident involving someone else and then both hurt someone else.

[MadMike]

Seriously there are ways to change the laws.

Two words: Civil Disobedience.

Should Rosa Parks have given up her seat because "It's the law?"

Sometimes the laws are wrong, and the only way they get changed is for people to refuse to obey them.

[jackfaire]

Two words: Civil Disobedience.

Should Rosa Parks have given up her seat because "It's the law?"

Sometimes the laws are wrong, and the only way they get changed is for people to refuse to obey them.

I agree with Civil disobedience but breaking the law merely because it is convenient for you to do so and not for any noble reason is stupid.

[Greenday]

I agree with Civil disobedience but breaking the law merely because it is convenient for you to do so and not for any noble reason is stupid.

And how do you define noble? Does it have to be some gigantic cause to be deemed noble? I drive faster in certain areas because the speed limits are slow there, they aren't busy, and there's no twists or turns. I consider that civil disobedience. Is it noble? No, but I'm still breaking a law that makes no sense to me.

[jackfaire]

And how do you define noble? Does it have to be some gigantic cause to be deemed noble? I drive faster in certain areas because the speed limits are slow there, they aren't busy, and there's no twists or turns. I consider that civil disobedience. Is it noble? No, but I'm still breaking a law that makes no sense to me.

You could also go through the legal channels to oh I don't know get the law changed seeing as you probably aren't the only one and it could be voted to change the speed limit there.

It's noble if your actually doing it for everyone not just, "Oh I don't like dealing with it so I am going to be disobedient"

[MadMike]

You could also go through the legal channels to oh I don't know get the law changed seeing as you probably aren't the only one and it could be voted to change the speed limit there.

Good idea. I'll talk to my elected officials if I can catch them when they're not busy giving themselves pay raises.

[jackfaire]

Good idea. I'll talk to my elected officials if I can catch them when they're not busy giving themselves pay raises.

In my state if you want something on the ballot and the elected officials aren't putting it there then you get it there yourself. You put together your bill get the required signatures and bada bing bada boom democracy.

[AdminAssistant]

In my epic adventure of trying to get my car (with a busted water pump) to the mechanic, I...slipped through a couple of stop signs and a red light. That no one else was at. With my hazards on. Because every time I stopped, my engine started heating up. I didn't put anyone at harm, and it helped me get my car to the mechanic, saving me goodness knows how much in towing fees. Technically illegal, but...yeah.

[jackfaire]

Technically illegal, but...yeah.

And if you got ticketed for it would you have been, "But that's not fair I am a law abiding citizen!"

Or would you have accepted that while more expensive there was another legal way for you to get your car there and accept the tickets?

[AdminAssistant]

I wouldn't have got ticketed because I wouldn't have done it in sight of a cop. However, if I had, I would've sucked it up and paid it, because the ticket would've been cheaper than the tow truck.

[Greenday]

You could also go through the legal channels to oh I don't know get the law changed seeing as you probably aren't the only one and it could be voted to change the speed limit there.

It's noble if your actually doing it for everyone not just, "Oh I don't like dealing with it so I am going to be disobedient"

Because being completely realistic, a politician is going to laugh at a 21 year old asking to raise speed limits. If politicians listened to people my age, weed would be legal and the drinking age would be 18.

[jackfaire]

I wouldn't have got ticketed because I wouldn't have done it in sight of a cop. However, if I had, I would've sucked it up and paid it, because the ticket would've been cheaper than the tow truck.

Good that is my point. A lot of people in that situation would make the argument that since they are a "law abiding" citizen they shouldn't have to obey that law because it is an inconvenience to them and should suffer no consequences from disobeying such law.