Inmate Kills Cellmate "Because He Deserved It"

[Greenday]

I used that same snowballing arguement in an essay about why me not doing my homework would lead to the downfall of humanity.

Not a bad start. You've doomed us all

[Vagabond]

*makes a snowman and waits for the abominable snowman to appear*

Back to topic...
I see it as a relatively isolated incident anyways. It's not like it's contagious or running rampant... like say, H1N1 or something. I would not be too terribly concerned.

And if it does spill out into the streets... Ummm... I'll think of something then. I've always wanted to build/own a sustainable bomb-shelter. How many solar panels would I need to power an electric fence? I need the electric fence to protect the solar panels... hmmmm circular logic there. Must work on that...

[LadyBarbossa]

They're both crap, to be sure, but I can't really say I'm devastated about the child rapist dying. But really -

Silva told investigators he caught Bell committing an inappropriate act while holding a photo of Silva’s young niece

Going on the assumption that this is true, I don't know many people who wouldn't get dangerously upset if they caught someone, I'm assuming again, jerking off to a picture of a child, especially a relative.

[Skelly]

That's how I see it. Think about it, what happens when the rapist got out of prison? Is he really someone you want living in your neighborhood? What if he does it again? As to Silva himself, there's not really much more the system can do to him. Well, other than solitary confinement. He's already serving a life sentence, and probably felt that he had "nothing to lose."

I'm thinking that he might be unhappy with that and is looking for the lethal injection perhaps?

[KitterCat]

There are good people, there are bad people and there are necessary people who neither the good or bad people will completely agree with at all times. Silva committed an act that while I do not agree with but can find to be necessary. I don’t condone murder, but at the same time I cant weep for a dead pedophile. However I don’t think Silva should receive a more lenient sentience because he killed another person, if anything keep him in jail longer. I’d view it as a plus - one dead child molester + one caged felon for a longer period of time = a very Machiavellian mindset.

As for it possibly racially motivated, ever thought it could be racially and sexually motivated? After all even most criminals have some sort of sense of honor and acceptable behavior. Usually even thieves and robbers consider child rapists’ to be the lowest of the low.

[protege]

Thought I'd throw this in here too. I found out, that one of the guys in my railroad historical society is actually in jail for being a pedophile. He got busted for sexually assaulting a child back in 1998, and was supposed to be serving a 20-year sentence. However, he's due to be released on parole in July of 2012.
He actually sent a letter to some of the board members to whine that he was in prison until 2012, couldn't afford to pay his dues, and was wondering if we could help him out there.

Not only was I shocked, but I was pissed. Why? Well, after a lengthy discussion with several other people, it was revealed that someone *did* pay his dues last year, and again this year. What the fuck? I mean, some of our members do have children, and sometimes bring them to the conventions. Is this someone we really want around our kids?

If not our kids, what about children in the host city? We usually attend rail-related museums, or other events. Suppose we were at the B&O Museum in Baltimore (awesome place, BTW), and something happened. Would our group be able to handle the negative publicity if it was found out that "we" had supported him? We've only been around 10 years, been growing every year since then, and any negative press could undo all that hard work.

Needless to say, his dues were paid, but he's not allowed to attend any conventions or other events when he's released.

[Skelly]

There are good people, there are bad people and there are necessary people who neither the good or bad people will completely agree with at all times. Silva committed an act that while I do not agree with but can find to be necessary. I don’t condone murder, but at the same time I cant weep for a dead pedophile. However I don’t think Silva should receive a more lenient sentience because he killed another person, if anything keep him in jail longer. I’d view it as a plus - one dead child molester + one caged felon for a longer period of time = a very Machiavellian mindset.

As for it possibly racially motivated, ever thought it could be racially and sexually motivated? After all even most criminals have some sort of sense of honor and acceptable behavior. Usually even thieves and robbers consider child rapists’ to be the lowest of the low.

Longer sentence than life in prison? Won't he start smelling rather foul if he's kept for longer than life?

[jackfaire]

Longer sentence than life in prison? Won't he start smelling rather foul if he's kept for longer than life?

You kharmically tag him then watch the hospitals when he is born with the tag you throw him back in the clink

[Skelly]

You kharmically tag him then watch the hospitals when he is born with the tag you throw him back in the clink

Or do something after he's dead, like that pope who had his predecessor dug up, charged with a series of offences, and then looped off his fingers that he had used to bless people & stuff with, and then threw his corpse into a river . Creative, and a way to ensure you get into the history books for something other than "being the pope between year x and y" .

[Vagabond]

Here's another bad, possibly in-humane, theory that I've thought up.
a. You have people who are in prison for longer-than-life sentences. Basically, they're not getting out until they're only dust and bones, if then.
b. You have people who don't want us test on animals for some reason or another.

Can those two ideas be combined? ("You have been brought here because society no longer has a use for you..." Cookie for reference.)

Say, you want to test a new vaccine (for virus X) and you don't want PETA showing up at your door step (something about testing on animals peeves them). Would PETA show up for a child-rapist/murderer who's serving multiple consecutive life-sentences (i.e. never going to see the light of day again)? On the positive side, the murderer would actually wind up helping humanity (one way or another), when he has served no other useful purpose.

*Please note. I did not say this was a good idea, just an alternate idea.

[jackfaire]

*Please note. I did not say this was a good idea, just an alternate idea.

Actually would be a good idea if 1 it was humane and 2 their conditions would be improved. 3 make it voluntary

Spend your life as an inmate or a lab rat either way you don't get your freedom but life is a little better as a lab rat.

We don't trust you to be in public but you can help the human race in your own way.

[Vagabond]

Actually would be a good idea if 1 it was humane and 2 their conditions would be improved. 3 make it voluntary

Spend your life as an inmate or a lab rat either way you don't get your freedom but life is a little better as a lab rat.

We don't trust you to be in public but you can help the human race in your own way.

1. Humane? Ummm.... Okay, I would sterilize the needles I use.
2. Conditions improve? Ummm... no better than the conditions in any prison (I would be using prisoners on death row or permanent lifers); they are not going to get better treatment just because they signed up to be guinea pigs.
3. Voluntary - absolutely. Yes.

Life isn't any better as a lab rat. The first people to witness a nuclear explosion were army soldiers - they all died of radiation sickness. The Tuskegee airmen were given syphilis and then just monitored to see what would happen, past the stages of when it could have been cured. So, I disagree with that statement.

But yes, I believe they would or could help humanity, even if they are no longer fit to be among the rest of humanity.

[jackfaire]

But yes, I believe they would or could help humanity, even if they are no longer fit to be among the rest of humanity.

Pesky problem of them still being human. I was pointing out the way I would do it would be socially acceptable and actually viable. Just dehumanizing them well that would make us the ones that belong in jail.

[Vagabond]

I'm not trying to dehumanize them. If I am, I am not realizing it.

I'm thinking more like separate them. You don't let a rabid dog play with your house dog. So, I wouldn't let a sick/ill person play with those in society. Is this not how they ended up in prison in the first place?

Socially acceptable? I would only take volunteers. No forcible recruiting. No lying (i.e. This in no way constitutes 'good behaviour'; your sentence will NOT be reduced in any way, shape or form. You'll just get slightly better medical care.). And tell them exactly what kind of tests/experiments that are being planned (Hello, we have 5,300 Mary Kay products we need tested. Are you volunteering?).

Viable? I don't know if it is a viable option or not.

[Nyoibo]

But what happens when the testing turns them into some psychotic super soldier type?

Ok, been watching too much Smallville.