The majority of men are better than most women

[GINSENG]

Yes, I realize there are exceptions. But exceptions do not prove the rule.

Men generally do the hard jobs. Both genders can be smart. But smart men are the ones who invent things and come up with new ideas. Smart women usually stick to say, being a doctor or something.

Contrary to all the feminists saying that men are so immature, men are usually MUCH more mature. They don't get offended anywhere near as easily. There is absolutely no reason to be offended when men are checking you out. Especially if you're wearing skimpy clothes.

Plus, they don't use the silent treatment or guilt trips when they don't get their way. You should've grown out of that by the time you were 16, hon.

And those are just some of the reasons.

I have absolutely no idea how anyone can not see this. It seems extremely obvious to me. Hopefully some of the people here have better reasons to believe I'm wrong than all the feminists I've talked to.

[blas87]

How about hopping back into that Delorean and going back the 50s, now?

I would like to see you give birth to a 6-10 lb baby. I'll bet you money most men could not handle pregnancy or giving birth.

I would love to see a man survive getting a period every month without bitching or whining.

I'm not a man-hating raging feminist, but your statement is the most misogynist, disgusting, bullshit statement that I have read lately on here.

Do tell me, are you just yet another vulture who joins this site purely for your own entertainment of riling others up and taking all the fun out of debating truly important or at least halfway decent topics, or do you actually have some kind of proof of your statements? Other than your own sexist stance on the topic. I'm thinking it's more of the latter.

[Greenday]

I would like to see you give birth to a 6-10 lb baby. I'll bet you money most men could not handle pregnancy or giving birth.

I would love to see a man survive getting a period every month without bitching or whining.

Do tell me, are you just yet another vulture who joins this site purely for your own entertainment of riling others up and taking all the fun out of debating truly important or at least halfway decent topics, or do you actually have some kind of proof of your statements? Other than your own pure ignorance and sexist stance on the topic. I'm thinking it's more of the latter.

I'd take that bet. If you get to be drugged up during birth, then we could too and we'd deal with it.

Eh, that ones a given. But I don't think it was even mentioned in the OP.

And probably.

As for the OP, a man does not become smart because he tries to invent stuff. There are plenty of guys who bleed their bank accounts dry coming up with nothing. Just because he didn't take the safer route doesn't mean he's any smarter. In fact, by taking such an insane risk, it may mean he's dumber. Also, the reason why men have come up with so many more inventions and discoveries is because women for so long were never allowed to work on such advanced research and they missed out in the peak time of revolutionary work.

No, there isn't reason to get offended by someone just checking you out. But when a guy won't stop checking you out and turns it into borderline harassment as it seems to do a lot, there IS reason to get offended. There's a difference between quickly checking a woman out and staring/undressing her with your eyes to the point of making her feel uncomfortable and most guys don't seem to get that.

I'll give you the dirty fighting stuff though. Women do it a lot more than men do.

But try not to troll to hard in the future.

[HYHYBT]

Ginseng: I won't say your observations are wrong, because we (presumably; you don't say where you're from) don't know the same people and it's always possible that you got stuck with a nonrepresentative sample. But it sure doesn't fit with the people I know and know of.

[telecom_goddess]

First of all thanks blas I couldn't have said it better myself!! Even besides the birth and periods I'd love to see a man go through the pregnancy without bitching.

As for myself...I'm in a job that requires one to be extremely organized and on top of their game all day. There are two females and 3 males doing it right now. And the women are outshining the men by a ton. We do a better job, we fuck it up less, and we see things through to completion. We buckle down and get to work instead of screwing around and doing fart and poop humor...and yapping when they should be working.

And while I can't speak for the other woman in my group, I personally do all that and run my house as well as a housewife who's home all damn day.

Beat that.

[Amanita]

I recall the story of Emily Roebling, wife of Washington Roebling, who was the chief engineer of the Brooklyn Bridge. When Washington was incapacitated by the bends, or caisson disease as it was known then, he was rendered a near invalid.

In order to keep the bridge project going, Emily learned a lot of technical skills, so that she could communicate her husband's instructions to the work crews on the site. Without her, the bridge may well not have been finished at all. In the late 19th century, a woman so heavily involved in such technical business was virtually unheard of. Women were considered weaker, less capable, and so on. Far too delicate to sully their hands with "man's" work.
Emily Roebling blew that stereotype out of the water.

Even today, I have heard stories out of the Alberta oil sands- they are getting quite a number of ladies serving as heavy equipment operators. And many of those are outperforming their male counterparts. Why? They are less resistant to instruction, less likely to perform unsafe or "cowboy" stunts, they don't beat on or abuse the equipment, and they work their asses off to prove they're just as good as the guys.

[Rebel]

I'd take that bet. If you get to be drugged up during birth, then we could too and we'd deal with it.

This can be easily arranged.
-Simply find a muscle stimulator.
-Arrange with a woman who has recently given birth, as they are more likely to recall the amount of pain they were in, to set up the maximum voltage needed for the experiment.
-Apply the muscle stimulator electrodes to certain positions on your abdominals.
-Gradually increase the voltage input while decreasing the time between stimulation. This is called labour. Enjoy it, coz it gets better.
-The only form of pain relief you can do is walking around and bouncing on a gym ball, after all, that's what women have to do. Pain relief isn't introduced until you're properly dilated.
-This can take any time from 1 hour to 3 days.
-Eventually, the muscle stimulator should be operating at the maximum level and you should have periods of only seconds between cramps.
-This should be agony.
-To finish off, you can opt to be cut open from arsehole to testicles. After all, women quite often have this done, as the other option is to violently tear as the baby comes out.
-Congratulations, you have a baby. But just wait around for another half hour or so, coz the placenta still has to come out. This can be even worse than when the baby came out.

I feel that any man who thinks childbirth is easy should have to go through this.

As for men being better than women, can we just point out that girls perform better in school and are 5 times more likely to graduate college.
This allows them to become the 'doctors' GINSENG seems so indifferent about who are able to fix up the dumbarse inventor man when he inevitably fails. But the reverse can also be said.

This is not to say that all women are better than all men. Every person is different and they have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Neither sex is better than the other. Anyone who suggests they are, is obviously not very world aware.

[Giggle Goose]

LOL. That's all I can say...this has got to be a fake.

[Rapscallion]

On a fourth post? Most griefers tend to post and run. I'd be inclined to say that it's less likely than I initially considered, but even if it's not then there's the potential for decent debate.

If it doesn't stay decent, we step in.

Rapscallion

[McDreidel09]

Right, Giggle Goose.

If it's not, then someone needs a reality check.

It's true, that in general, guys are better than women in science and math. However, in general, women are much better than men in language. Just take a look at the toys we are given as children. Boys are given toys that deal with physics and math and science. Women are given toys that deal with using language (like dolls). That is in general.

There is a reason one does not see many women in certain fields and that is because women were not given the opportunity to do such jobs until much later. Women are breaking into engineering and construction and doing very well.

As for cattiness, well that is up to the individual woman. I don't give silent treatments. I confront the person head on if they are bothering me. The next woman might do the silent treatment to be dumb. The next woman could do the silent treatment because they want to be left alone to cool down. I've seen some guys act catty!

Women do mature faster than men. Just take a walk on a college campus! More often than not, the guys are doing something really dumb, like being on the roof of a gazebo, or vandalizing property. Just walk through the dorms! Women take much better care of their surroundings than men, in general.

[KnitShoni]

Yes, I realize there are exceptions. But exceptions do not prove the rule.

Men generally do the hard jobs. Both genders can be smart. But smart men are the ones who invent things and come up with new ideas. Smart women usually stick to say, being a doctor or something.

Contrary to all the feminists saying that men are so immature, men are usually MUCH more mature. They don't get offended anywhere near as easily. There is absolutely no reason to be offended when men are checking you out. Especially if you're wearing skimpy clothes.

Plus, they don't use the silent treatment or guilt trips when they don't get their way. You should've grown out of that by the time you were 16, hon.

And those are just some of the reasons.

I have absolutely no idea how anyone can not see this. It seems extremely obvious to me. Hopefully some of the people here have better reasons to believe I'm wrong than all the feminists I've talked to.

Ok, to your first statement: What, exactly, do you consider a "hard job?" Is it merely the more physical ones? How do you determine which jobs are "harder" than others?

About smart men/ smart women: You say smart men are the ones who invent things. That statement reads as if you don't believe anything has been invented by a woman. It also reads (to me) as if you don't believe women have the mental CAPACITY to invent things.

As far as maturity: Most of what I've read about the differences in maturity levels between men and women, which state the women as a whole tend to be a great deal more mature, has come from men. From what I've experienced, men get offended just as easily as women do, for a lot of the same reasons. Your example of getting offended when men are checking women out has nothing to do with maturity, and more to do with respect. It offends me that a man will show such disrespect to my husband, myself, and himself that he will ogle me when I'm in jeans and a t-shirt holding my husband's hand.

Regarding the silent treatment: I can't speak for everyone who uses that tactic. However, I know why I do, on the rare occasions I do. It may not be very mature of me to not respond to someone who has pissed me off. On the other hand, I know myself well enough to know that if someone has pissed me off to that point, the silent treatment is the more mature option, because I'm not paying to replace broken items or for hospital bills.

[Plaidman]

I'm doing everything I can not to scream and insult your stupid outdated views.

No sex is better then any other. Their equal. Each side has equal idiots and equal genius.

At least for me, it was always the girls who did far far far better then the guys schoolwise, with the exception of a few. (not me of course). Even sports wise the girls were equal a good chunk of the time.

Take my family for example. Bulk of the guys are in prison. But a few own their own businesses. (Like my little cousin owns his own cleaning business. Lots of money). However, the bulk of the females were also dumb in their own way by getting pregnet at like, 14. A few though, still own their own business, or have good jobs. My sister is the highest educated one and getting her PhD this year.

Guess what Engine Muffler, Alphabet Blocks, Fire Escapes, Life Rafts, fucking KELVAR ARMOR, Telescopes,

COMPUTER PROGRAMMING

Medical Syringe, and thousands more have in common? They were all invented by woman. Yep. WOMAN. Most of stuff you use everyday is also invented by woman, such as refridgator etc etc.

Augusta Ada Byron was first computer programmer if you wanted to know. You know, something that we use everyday.

I'd say more, but I'm afraid the your male brain couldn't comprehand the fact that woman can do equal stuff to males. Sorry that you don't get a free pass of awesome because you have one less X chromosome then female.

[Hobbs]

Hmm, historically I have to argue the point of her being a computer programmer, though others have come to that conclusion, so my argument is moot. However, the difference engine by Babbage wasn't the first 'computer.' The first known implement to be considered a computer was made by the Greeks in 2-3000 BCE.

[lupo pazzesco]

Plaid, you're my hero right at this very moment. I was struck speechless by the OP, but you put it right back at him. Go you!



I have nothing to say to the OP. After all, he probably wouldn't understand anything, given that I, as a female, am less intelligent, less mature, and just not on his level for debate apparently. Wouldn't want him to hurt himself trying to figure out what poor, 'lil female me is saying in response to his overwhelming masculine logic, and why even waste his time, since he has so many more important things to do, like having a better job that's so much more demanding than what I do.

I mean, I, as a woman, couldn't possibly have just moved 1,587 lbs of books by myself today, reconstructed a shelving unit that fell, conference call with 2 vendors regarding lost shipments and updating editions. Oh, and I'm so glad my manager is male because there is just NO way I could have tracked, logged, listed and managed to figure out we had a fraudulent textbook buying scam/ID theft ring hitting our company two days before the corporate-wide memo went out stating such all by my little self!!. corporate LP just called me to confirm that my manager had enough coffee on hand while they went through the 20-ish orders that came to our store alone...

...

I think I just made myself physically ill.

Oh, and since men are more intelligent, can a big, strong, smart, better man tell me if I utilized sarcasm enough to make a point, or should I try again? and if I'm doing something wrong, please explain it in a way that my poor, less evolved female brain can comprehend.

Thank you.

[Hobbs]

Sarcasm is usually more subtle, if my recollection serves me right, but if not, then this just proves you have a better brain, non?