The majority of men are better than most women

[the_std]

Ginseng, I'm not entirely sure what a list of male inventors proves except that men have invented more things. That doesn't prove your point. An inventor is not the be-all end-all of human existence. I'm not sure where you got this idea that only inventors are doing worthwhile things in life. Where did that come from? What proof do you have that someone's societal worth should be measured by created things?

[Plaidman]

Do I come off as a guy? Damn it
Although, in real life I have a unisex name so I really should be used to this by now.

Sorry. I changed.

[Hobbs]

Although, to be honest, "Rebel" usually doesn't denote a lady.

[Rebel]

Although, to be honest, "Rebel" usually doesn't denote a lady.

A rebel is a participant in a rebellion; or more precisely, an individual who resists authority or control.

Not gender based at all.

[Hobbs]

My mascot was a rebel: http://www.ladyrebelsvolleyball.com/31d679a0.jpg

Definitely not a girl.

[Rebel]

My mascot was a rebel: http://www.ladyrebelsvolleyball.com/31d679a0.jpg

Definitely not a girl.

Or at least a VERY unfortunate girl.

Hey! Look at me treadjacking.

Umm...women are no less important than men.

[Hobbs]

no, i think this thread warrants a jacking...

i wish i were in the land of cotton...

[Plaidman]

Rebels are very gender neutral.

Princess Leia. Rebel.
Terra Branford. Rebel.

Only uh, two I can think of at top of head. But nonetheless, Rebels!

[Hobbs]

Thomas Jefferson, Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, Nelson Mandela.

I just doubled your count.

[Rebel]

Cleopatra, Amelia Earhart, Victoria Woodhull (first female candidate for president).

Cool, the debate lives on, and in my name too!

Famous male and female rebels.

[Hobbs]

Cleopatra wasn't a rebel. Neither was Amelia Earhart.

[fireheart17]

Men generally do the hard jobs. Both genders can be smart. But smart men are the ones who invent things and come up with new ideas. Smart women usually stick to say, being a doctor or something.

Define "hard job." I've helped my dad out with a few carpentry jobs, which generally involve heavy lfiting. I've also helped move things at work that are normally reserved for males.

I mean, I, as a woman, couldn't possibly have just moved 1,587 lbs of books by myself today, reconstructed a shelving unit that fell, conference call with 2 vendors regarding lost shipments and updating editions. Oh, and I'm so glad my manager is male because there is just NO way I could have tracked, logged, listed and managed to figure out we had a fraudulent textbook buying scam/ID theft ring hitting our company two days before the corporate-wide memo went out stating such all by my little self!!. corporate LP just called me to confirm that my manager had enough coffee on hand while they went through the 20-ish orders that came to our store alone...

Lupo, two points on that post:

1) that story about the textbook ring...is that the one on CS.com? Or is there another story?
2) I bow to your superior moving skills.

I'd take it, too.

When I was fifteen, I had to have my right testicle cut off. I never complained one throughout the whole thing, not during the surgery or during the recovery period.

Not necessarily me, however while not pregnant, I had to have a kidney/pelvic ultrasound to find out why I was having pelvic pains. Not ectopic pregnancy thank god, just a urinary tract infection. When I had to drink the water from the ultrasound, I was in that much pain I couldn't wait out the whole hour to let my bladder fill.

Depends on which feminist you ask.

Most liberal feminists just want more rights for women, not slavery. So I guess you could technically be a feminist


Also, my 2c:

There are plenty of modern day programs and ideas run for women, created by women. Case in point: there's a company called "female friendly" which goes out to various places and locates which ones won't rip women off simply for being women (I'm sure we've all read scenarios where the woman has been ripped off while a man has it cheaper). Some female-only gyms were created by women.

Childbirth...I'd agree with most of the posts here about that. While there are plenty of stories about men who have sympathy pains or even have the labour pains of their wife, until all men end up feeling it, it's impossible for the average Joe to comment on how it feels.

The "clothing" issue: I'll gawk at skinny/athletic men. Does that make me a pervert? I know plenty of men who either wear nothing or they wear their shirts unbuttoned just so women can gawk at them. I wear V-neck t-shirts, does that mean that I should be gawked at? (i wear them because it's allegedly meant to give the illusion that my breasts are smaller)

Maturity: depends on the area. Women might be more inclined to take personal responsibility for their actions and suffer the consequences. But then again, so do MOST men. Here's a scenario to think about:

A man and a woman get pulled over for speeding (in different cars). Both were speeding by about 10km/h extra (you can lose your licence in some cases). They're both hit with a $320 fine (AUD). Which one is more likely to pay up and which one is more likely to scream down the phone at the cop that speed cameras revenue raise?

[Hobbs]

In my experience, women try to dispute tickets more.

Thanks for ruining our threadjack btw.

[Rebel]

Cleopatra wasn't a rebel. Neither was Amelia Earhart.

Amelia Earhart went against popular opinion on the ability of female pilots and was able to become the first female pilot to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean.

Cleopatra was the first woman Pharaoh to rule Egypt by herself. Despite the expectation of her to take a husband to rule by her, she did not follow it. She did however align with 2 famous Greek men, but she was always in power.

They resisted authority and control through their actions and their decision not to let it dictate how they ran their lives.

Also, back on topic;
-I performed well in school
-I have worked in male strong occupations (car yards, carpentry).
-I am physically strong.
-I do not complain about any work put upon me, unless it is physically impossible for me to do it.
-I have never used 'but I'm a woman' as an excuse to not have to do something.
-I have great expectations of myself and I'm striving to achieve these.

How is a man any better or worse than me? How can you say I will not achieve the things I want because I am female?

Gender doesn't matter. It's the person who matters.

[Plaidman]

I totally want to meet you now Rebel. You live near Portland Ore?

As for Cleo? Yeah. Its no secret she was a rebel in the sense she rebel against transdition that men need rule. Bonnie Parker too.