The majority of men are better than most women

[lupo pazzesco]

Oh dear. I messed up the concept of sarcasm.

Must be because I'm a girl.

Whatever shall I do now?

[Hobbs]

Oh dear. I messed up the concept of sarcasm.

Must be because I'm a girl.

Whatever shall I do now?

back to the kitchen

*runs away and ducks*

[lupo pazzesco]

Well...I do have to figure out what to do for dinner...but...that involves making a decision.

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I'm screwed, I'll never be able to eat again!!

[Hobbs]

Well...I do have to figure out what to do for dinner...but...that involves making a decision.

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I'm screwed, I'll never be able to eat again!!

I have made things quite difficult, eh? My work is done, kukuku.

[lupo pazzesco]

curse you and your vaunted male superiority!

Actually, given the OP, it's probably best I don't try and cook for myself, seeing as how that there stove is a complicated machine lookin' thing, and, why, I wouldn't know the first thing about operating it! Oh, this is just so stressful!

[Hobbs]

curse you and your vaunted male superiority!

Actually, given the OP, it's probably best I don't try and cook for myself, seeing as how that there stove is a complicated machine lookin' thing, and, why, I wouldn't know the first thing about operating it! Oh, this is just so stressful!

*picks up spatula* geez, making us men take care of u again, ain't ya?

[lupo pazzesco]

On a more serious note, the OP mentioned that women shouldn't be offended by guys checking them out, especially while wearing skimpy clothes.

I DON'T wear skimpy clothes, but unless I'm wearing a turtleneck, I'm always going to be showing cleavage. I'm a big gal. So...I shouldn't be offended by the guys hitting on me and detailing the explicit sexual acts they want to do with me? (I'm sorry, but sitting at a bus stop and being told "You're so fucking gorgeous, I'd love to see my cum on your tits"? Oh, yes, OP, that's really a mature male, right there!)

I also shouldn't be offended by the man who told me I should be THANKFUL he was hitting on me because, and this is a direct quote, mind you, "big girls like you probably don't get as much attention as pretty girls." (Once again, a stunning display of male maturity!)

And let's not forget the part of the OP where men don't use silent treatment or guilt trips. Really? Why not? Because it's beneath their superior intellect?

Tell that to my biological father, who made me feel like I was a failure as a daughter, by not being the adult in our relationship. I was 15, and he would call me, claiming I didn't want to see him, I must not love him. If I wanted to spend time with him I (at FIFTEEN) had to make all the plans and tell him when/where to show up, and if I was lucky, he would show up about half the time.

Extreme examples? Maybe, but if men are so much better/so much more mature/so much smarter, why is it that I can think of so many examples off the top of my head of not just my experiences, but others as well that prove the contrary? They're not all exceptions to some rule that you seem to believe.

Oh look, a random man who argues against your points in his blog

Oh look, another man who states the differences in maturity

Are the links scientific? No, but I don't feel like culling through the over 1500 hits I received on JStor alone when I searched my school library site.

*picks up spatula* geez, making us men take care of u again, ain't ya?

<puts feet up> Well, I'm not cooking my own meal, and I get to relax. And the OP says men are smarter.

[guywithashovel]

I'd take that bet. If you get to be drugged up during birth, then we could too and we'd deal with it.

I'd take it, too.

When I was fifteen, I had to have my right testicle cut off. I never complained one throughout the whole thing, not during the surgery or during the recovery period.

Beat that, anyone?

[Hobbs]

*looks at burned roast, then at burned hands* hmm...

[lupo pazzesco]

*looks at burned roast, then at burned hands* hmm...

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You still have Domino's on speed dial, right...?

I'll go find the first aid kit...

[Hobbs]

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You still have Domino's on speed dial, right...?

I'll go find the first aid kit...

hmm, i do, actually...well...i have it bookmarked on my comp

...thanks for the burn kit

[BlaqueKatt]

I'd take that bet. If you get to be drugged up during birth, then we could too and we'd deal with it.

drugs are not mandatory in childbirth-someone like me wasn't able to have them even if I wanted-blood pressure was too low-plus it has to be given at the right time or can force a c-section or can be to late to be given-and yeah an epidural is a catheter inserted into the spinal cord-usually given between contractions-quite painful on it's own, and don't dare flinch or it may paralyze you....I had 14 stitches after childbirth-some of them were internal-from tearing-my son had a very large head....oh and no drugs for that either-I got stitched up with full sensation...longest 20 minutes of my life.....

[lupo pazzesco]

I actually never thought of that, BlaqueKatt. My nephew's mom had the same problem, they wanted to give her an epi, but her BP was too low, and there were complications, given that my nephew was a big baby, and she damn near died, to the point the doctor had to insert his arm, to keep her innards from becoming outards. All without drugs.

[Ree]

If you get to be drugged up during birth, then we could too and we'd deal with it.

Hmmm...I wasn't drugged up at all.
In fact, I had nothing for the birth, nor for the stitching up after.

When I was fifteen, I had to have my right testicle cut off. I never complained one throughout the whole thing, not during the surgery or during the recovery period.

Beat that, anyone?

Ouch!!

Well, maybe it doesn't beat that, but not only was I dealing with the pain of childbirth completely drug free, but the baby was also pressing down on the newly discovered tumour that had been growing on my sciatic nerve. Talk about pain...

Pain thresholds are a personal thing, though, so you can't argue superiority just over the ability to give birth and not cave, or survive a period.

I do feel, though, that if men had the ability to give birth, most families would have only one child.

I really don't know the OP's reasoning for posting such a sweeping statement, but it would be interesting to see actual facts and references to back up the argument.

I assume, though, that the member is tired of hearing "feminist" rants and male bashing, and that is possibly why the thread was posted.
To that, I say a true feminist will acknowledge the value of all people, regardless of gender and follow the "Golden Rule" as it applies to feminism - Treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself.

If anyone has made the OP feel inferior, it is not because of feminist views.

[Plaidman]

To that, I say a true feminist will acknowledge the value of all people, regardless of gender and follow the "Golden Rule" as it applies to feminism - Treat others as you would wish to be treated yourself.

If anyone has made the OP feel inferior, it is not because of feminist views.

Quoted for truth. My mom and Sister are feminist. They want equal treatment for everyone, not inslavement or putting men into their place like some woman I met that claim to be feminist.

Huh... as a male, can I be a feminist?

Then again, I've always had the thought that woman were already my better. I'm just... wierd.