The majority of men are better than most women

[GINSENG]

Alright. You don't feel like inventing, or doing /great/ things because your a woman and thats your excuse. Glad you cleared that up.

But not all woman feel that just because they're an woman they cannot do great things. I'm glad for that too. World would be a far worst place if only males could do stuff.

But who? Giving me the names of four women who accomplished something isn't proving anything.

Would you like me to post ALL the men inventors? That would take a bit too long.

So, you protest my linking a singles website blog, and your rebuttals of proof include a youtube video and another random person's blog. But it's ok, because that person is RIGHT.

Yes, you're starting to get it now.

All just a bunch of blah blah blah.

[BlaqueKatt]

Women aren't expected to take any days off from work. They choose to do it themselves.

um it's usually a medical requirement not a choice-it is something you have to heal from-lochia or postpartum bleeding is from an OPEN WOUND in the uterus where the placenta detached, you can bleed out and die from that Postpartum hemorrhaging occurs in between 1% and 10% of all pregnancies in the United States. It usually begins in the 24 hours immediately following childbirth (early postpartum hemorrhage), however, it can occur anytime during the six weeks following delivery (delayed postpartum hemorrhage).-heck in North Carolina it is ILLEGAL for a woman to drive for the full six weeks after giving birth for this very reason-so do you propose they walk to work? C'mon show some more ignorance......

What are some other ways then? How can you make a difference in the world without inventing new things and ideas?

ask Irena Sendler, Mother Theresa(even though I don't like her), Helen Keller(co-founded the ACLU-and she was deaf, mute, and blind), Princess Diana or any of these 200 women

Sorry but I think saving Jewish children from the holocaust made a difference in the world-but I view the world as the people in it, not material things. Just as Princess Diana tried to get landmines eliminated-but since she's a woman(Princess no less) and didn't invent anything she didn't make any difference in the world. And the ACLU that would not even exist without Helen Keller has done nothing of course......

Marie Curie split the Atom for energy-MEN created the atom bomb

Not everyone agrees with abortion, you know.

So that gives them the right to FORCE their views on others?
Guess what not everyone agrees with women working outside the home-guess you better get married and start popping out the young'uns then....

Men invented the bill of rights and such. Not a woman.

Cheap shot-or do I have to point out that when the bill of rights was written women couldn't vote, work outside the home, hold property...heck they WERE property and had no rights,so the bill written by men DID NOT EVEN APPLY TO THEM-nor did it apply to anyone that wasn't a white male landowner. Or did we FALL asleep during history class?

Would you like me to post ALL the men inventors?

ya know what they all had in common? they were birthed and raised by women-quite possibly women who encouraged them to do great things because they themselves could not.....

BlaqueKatt, it's better to just listen to him rather than look him up on wikipedia.

I'll get right on that as soon as a time machine is invented seeing as his show went OFF THE AIR in 2009-or do you mean his current show where he talks about food, wine, and luxury cars

[Plaidman]

Fine. You want a list of woman inventors?

Randice-Lisa Altschul = Disposible Cell Phones

Virgie Ammons = Fireplace dampler (Was also black)

Doctor Betsy Ancker-Johnson = Has highest possible honors possible for engineers. Also got her PhD in physics in the 1950s. Alot of her methods discovered are still in massive use today in terms of plasma. (energy, not blood)

Mary Anderson = Windshield Wipers. Something every car has.

Virginia Apgar = First female doctor from Columbia University. Made system for gauging newborns health and new painkillers for females. Also discoverd methods so woman didn't die as much in childbirth.

Barbara Askins = NASA hired her to create what they now use to delevop film from space. This then lead to new advances in X-Ray technology. She didnt' create Xray, but she did help make it what it was today.

Patricia Bath = First female black doctor. She invented lasers to remove cataracts from eyes. She also gave eightsight to people who been blind for 30+ years.

Miriam Benjamin = I don't like her...she invented the push a button for room service...

Patricia Billings = She created a fireproof plaster that several buildings now use in their creation.

Katherine Blodgett = Transparent glass. Made eyeglasses, telescopes, etc etc far more usful. Before light would glare horridly on them. Not anymore from her.

Bessie Blount = Black woman that made inventings so that people without arms/legs can feed themselves without help.

Rachel Fuller Brown and Elizabeth Lee Hazen

Josephine Cochran = Dishwasher

Martha Coston = Maritime Flares. (You know, what sailors use when they need help? and this was due to her husband death. She did it in 1871.

Dianne Croteau = CPR training dolls

Marie Curie = discovered radioactive metals i.e. Radium & Polonium.

Marion Donovan = Disposable Diapers

Gertrude Elion = Created the drugs that allows human bodies to accept transplants, drugs that fight herpes, drugs that fight leukomia

Edith Flanigen = Often declared one of the most inventive chemists of all time.

Helen Free = Home Diabetes testing.

Sally Fox = Several creations to cotton clothes and pest control that allows for several people to get mass qualaties of clothes made from cotton.

Frances Gabe = Self cleaning house

Lillian Moller Gilbreth = Reason that refridgators have shelves, trashcans just need a footpress to open, electric food mixters.

Sarah Goode = First black woman to get an patent. For making hidabeds.

Bette Nesmith Graham = White out

Temple Grandin = A woman with autism. Also made it so animals didn't have as much pain/suffering/fear when being slaughtered for food.

KK Gregory = Made new types of clothes to block out snow and cold far better then anything before. She was TEN when she did this by the way. Glad she wasn't your daughter or that would never have been made.

Ruth Handler = While it may have set some woman back, she still did invent barbie doll.

Joycelyn Harrison = Another black woman NASA science. Robot muscles, and self-repairing machines. Being used for space and other items.

Beulah Henry = The female edison. Had well over 110 inventions, not limited to ice cream freezer, umbrella's that could switch colors, bobbinless sewing machine, Protograph which was a typerwriter that could do FOUR copies at once in 1940!, mass producing envelopes, The dolls's whose eyes closed and change color


Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin = Mapped several layouts of atoms and moecular shapes of over 100 molecules including vitamins and insulin, penicillin.

Krisztina Holly = helped created the first computer generated full color reflection holograms. Also head-eye vision robots and robotic weld-seam-tracking programs for space shuttles main englins. Also created the Stylus that allows us to order items by scanning a barcode. All major stores use it to order items.

Erna Schneider Hoover = Created the automatic caller switching system.

Grace Murray Hopper = Helped with the Mark 1 computer, and helped with woman joining the army in other fields other then nurse.

Mary Phelps Jacob = Bra

Amanda Jones = The system of how we can food. Pretty fucking vital don't you think?

Marjorie Joyner = the permanent wave machine.

Anna Keichline = Several space saving inventions and new designs for sink and bathtubs we use today. Also made the precurser of the modren concreate block.

Margaret Knight = Paper bags.

Stephanie Kwolek = Kevlar

Hedy Lamarr = The inventor of secret communication systems for the allies to help defeat german. Its used in all sort of ways now.

Sybilla Masters = In the 1700, made the way to clean and make all sorts of corn products.

Ann Moore = Baby Carrier (Well, made it famous and mass produced)

Krysta Morlan = Made the invention to relive cast irrations. And waterbike, bikes that can go in water. She did this by tenth grade. With Cerebral Palasy.

Ellen Ochoa = The system that all major manufacturing places uses. It allows to detect imperfections. She was also the first hispanic female american in space with over 720 hours there.

Alice Parker = Central Heating

Betty Rozier and Lisa Vallino made it so IV units aren't accidentally dislodged and minimizes exposure to patient tampering.

Valerie Thomas = Illusion transmitter. Basically three dimensional TV.

Ann Tsukamoto = Cocreator for isolating the human stem cell.

Harriet Tubman = Underground railroad.

Mary Walton = Method of deflecting smoke stack emissions


I could go on. but I think I made my point. Do some research next time before you spout nonsense.

[lupo pazzesco]

Yes, you're starting to get it now.

All just a bunch of blah blah blah.

Then, honestly, what's the point of joining a debate forum if you're going to nix every argument someone comes up with by calling a bunch of blah blah blah? There's no real debate involved if you make a statement, claim that "them's the breaks, that's just how the world works, oh well, moving on!" and then completely disregard whatever anyone says to the contrary.

Oh, and saying you CAN'T do something just because you're a woman? Boo-frickin'-hoo. I think BlaqueKatt and Plaidman covered that angle well enough, so I won't add to it.

But honestly, then, why make a post on a debate forum, and then not commit to an actual debate, especially not one backed up by factual evidence. I'm sorry, but it's actually insulting to see the people here who've taken the time to show you hard data of counterpoints, and then have you shoo it off, because your one random blogger is RIGHT, and that's the only thing you know.

Actually, more than insulting, it's disturbing, and I, personally, find it kind of disgusting. But hey, that's all right, right? Because I'm not really saying anything valid, and neither is anyone else who's responded here. We're just filling the screen with useless blah blah blah.

[Rebel]

What I love about this thread is that it's very nicely summing up the incredible achievements of women without putting men down. No-one, besides the OP has a single derogatory thing to say about women or men.

Was that your original intent you crafty OP you? If so, congratulations.

One woman inventor I want to give a shout-out to is 2005 Australian of the year, Fiona Wood.
She invented 'spray on skin' which was used on the 2002 Bali bombing victims. This is where skin cells are sprayed on the surface of a burn instead of waiting to manufacture a sheet of skin cells to place over it. This cut back the time needed to cultivate cells by 16 days. This invention greatly reduced the scarring a burn victim would experience, as well as the chance of infection.
This invention was used on my brother when a truck tire exploded in his face. I can't thank her enough.

But, GINSENG's comments make it seem as though Dr Wood should have just given up earlier in her life and stayed at home, after all, what can a woman do?

Now, I have no intention of being a doctor, or a lawyer, or a scientist, in fact, I'm trying out as a writer. But that doesn't mean that I couldn't be in that sort of field if I tried.

I kinda get the feeling that the OP may have been put in a position growing up where she has been told that she would never have a chance at greatness just because she's female. And that makes me sad.

(Plaidman --> I got quoting recognition!!!!)

[lupo pazzesco]

(Plaidman --> I got quoting recognition!!!!)

Now, now, no one likes a braggart, silly. Besides we don't keep score...and if we did, Plaidman just scored a bajillion million points by listing all the female inventors. so there, neener neener. Your turn!

[McDreidel09]

You can't do anything because you're a woman?! Are you kidding me?! Thanks for taking our sex back a couple of thousand years.

Since you're such an expert on history, then you would know that Elizabeth I did many great things and brought down the Spanish empire.

I agree with std. You have yet to bring forth facts. What you presented were views from biased people, which has no legitimacy in arguments. No-one can take you seriously with this because you just spout off nonsense. We have presented you with tons of facts (that are only a small fraction of what's out there), but you just say that we are wrong and that men are better because you and some misogynist say so.

So chickadee, you best be bringing some facts.

[Rebel]

Now, now, no one likes a braggart, silly. Besides we don't keep score...and if we did, Plaidman just scored a bajillion million points by listing all the female inventors. so there, neener neener. Your turn!

Shhh. I NEVER get quoted. The shock alone nearly killed me.
And I love Plaidman. He's awesome and well informed. Thus why being quoted instead of him made me go O_O

[blas87]

And this would be why I was so upset after first reading this.

Where is any proof, other than biased opinions and youtube blogs? Don't call wiki worthless if you are trying to use youtube as proof.

And then proceeding to tell everyone who is posting facts that it's "Blah blah blah".....no more blah blah blah than someone just spouting off biased sexist nonsense with no real proof or facts.

[HYHYBT]

ON AVERAGE, it may well be true that one sex is somewhat better than the other for certain purposes and vice versa... but if you leave out the few things that are strictly limited to one or the other (producing sperm or ova, lactating, giving birth...) then those average differences pale compared to the differences between any two individual real people.

[lupo pazzesco]

Shhh. I NEVER get quoted. The shock alone nearly killed me.
And I love Plaidman. He's awesome and well informed. Thus why being quoted instead of him made me go O_O

Oh all right, bask in your moment.

Course, now I'm looking bad for not recognizing the awesomeness of Plaidman...I sowies Plaidman. Bad Lupo...

[Plaidman]

Oh all right, bask in your moment.

Course, now I'm looking bad for not recognizing the awesomeness of Plaidman...I sowies Plaidman. Bad Lupo...

It's fine. We're on the same side. Let her be quoted. It makes her happy. .

And besides, being told I'm awesome as it is makes me feel pretty good. No wonder I go to these sites so much. It does wonders for my self-confidence.

[BlaqueKatt]

Now, I have no intention of being a doctor, or a lawyer, or a scientist, in fact, I'm trying out as a writer. But that doesn't mean that I couldn't be in that sort of field if I tried.

And it does not by any means mean that you won't "make a difference in the world" or change it in some way....

look at JK Rowling and (much as I DESPISE the woman and her writing) Stephanie "oooo sparkles" Meyer-they've made a difference in the world by writing things kids actually want to read-and getting kids interested in reading horrendously long books-no matter what the subject is-DOES make a difference-maybe their next book will be something that inspires them to DO something great, or just be a better person.

We need more of that.....Heck I will actually admit that I decided to start doing charity work because of a song-that's right folks a pop song made the Katt examine her life and make changes...the song in question.....yeah yeah go ahead and poke fun...at least it wasn't a Rick Roll.....

[Nyoibo]

No-one, besides the OP has a single derogatory thing to say about women or men.

Oh I do, I'm just behaving myself.

[Rebel]

It's fine. We're on the same side. Let him be quoted. It makes him happy.

Do I come off as a guy? Damn it
Although, in real life I have a unisex name so I really should be used to this by now.