Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Men can't cry.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Men can't cry.

    I've heard it before. I've been told it. Even after having my heart tore out, I was told to basically suck it up. By the person that did it no-less. Something I'm still pretty pissed off about.

    I do cry. Sometimes. I've cried during some movies. Not like WHAAAAAAAAAA, but I did have some tears. Like ending of Merlin with Sam Neil. Titanic. Little Miss Sunshine when grandpa died. There are others too.

    I've cried when my pets died. When my first bird, a parakeet one was accidently stepped on by a /friend/ (Who later admitted she did it on purpose just to cause me pain), I asked for a day off work. I was in grief. That bird was my best friend who would cuddle with me. Get a little jealous when I was on a phone and fly over and peck at the phone til I got off so I would play with him. My boss didn't see why I should. I was told it was just animal. Get over it and get to work.

    I was given another bird quickly. Two canaries. Both loved me. I got them from a pet store, and both were very friendly. One managed to sneak out and fly out my front door when it was open. It was during a snow period. I never found him. As such, the second one became very needy. She would fly and be with me all the time. It would sneak out and sleep next to me.

    One day I awoke. She was under me. I still feel guilty. I knew I should have gotten a better lock on her door. I was in tears and trying to get off work. Again, boss told me to get over it and get to work. It was just a bird. Naturally several people saw me puffy eyed and was at least somewhat sympathic. Not one customer. He started to laugh. He thought it was the funniest damn thing he ever heard of. It was fucking awesome that I killed my own bird. In my rage I kicked him out of the store. He screamed names at me, stormed out and knocked over several displeys. When I told my manager, she said she'll talk to him. I wanted him out for insulting me, destroying displays, hostile work envorement.

    I was told later by corporate that I was wrong to kick him out. They didn't want to be sued as the man didn't do anything. I was even told to APOLOGY to the sonofabitch. He did nothing wrong. It was just a bird. One I only had for a short time. They might understand if it was a cat or dog i had for years, but not a bird.

    I refused to apolgy to that man. I never did. When he came in, I just tell him the total, bag his shit and that was it.

    I have cried over my own lonelyness. I've cried over my sometimes overwhelming urge to terminate my life, because it would certanly make everyone's else life as easy. Then I get imagaes of my funeral, and it just.. gah.

    I cried when my boss of five years, one that I treated like a sister and who she always claimed I was a brother. She invited me to her house for dinner with her family. She told me to save a little money up so she can take me to China when she went to visit family and show me her birthplace, got rid of me. For something I didn't even do. I was forced to another store, that has cause me alot more stress then anything else. I tried to talk to her, and she might wave or say hi, but that's it. I always knew she was a powerfreak, and that moment of getting her brother's girlfriend to be her assistant manager was just too good a moment to pass up I suppose. But still, It felt like my heart got wrench even further out, and that was shortly after another dump in my life that just really caused me to go bananas.

    So yeah. I cry sometimes. But I've been told time and time again to basically suck it up. be a man. Men cannot cry.

    I didn't cry when I was stabbed. I didn't cry when I been smashed in the head with bottles. I didn't even cry when any family memebers have died. I cried when my pets died, and not family. That makes me guilty. I tend to be able to take a decent amount of phyiscally pain, which is likely why alot of people are helping me because this hip is making me CRY at times due to the pain.

    Its emontional pain that gets me. I've tried to kill of my feelings. I tried to terminate any hope of love. But it still gets me everytime.

    So. What are your views. Should men cry? Should men just bottle up? Am I just a big crybaby?
    Toilet Paper has been "bath tissue" for the longest time, and it really chaps my ass - Blas
    I AM THE MAN of the house! I wear the pants!!! But uh...my wife buys the pants so....yeah.

  • #2
    If you're a crybaby, so is my husband. I've never understood why men weren't allowed to cry. Last I checked, men felt pain just like women do. They have emotions. Things affect them. I personally have more respect for a man who isn't afraid to shed a few tears, if he needs to, than one who rags on other men for doing so.
    Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

    Comment


    • #3
      The last thing you should worry about is being honest about your emotions. Anyone who says that men shouldn't cry is a jerk, plain and simple.

      It's normal to feel numb after a family member dies. I didn't cry for months after my dad died, even though I was very close to him. Then I went through a bout of depression where, when I was feeling blue about something else, I would start thinking about anything else that could cause me to be sad, including my dad's death, and I would cry until I had no tears left.
      "The future is always born in pain... If we are wise what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world." --G'Kar, "Babylon 5"

      Comment


      • #4
        I cried for hours after my dad died.

        I cried at the Tigger Movie when Roo said sweet things to Tigger.

        I cry and I admit I cry. A man who can't cry is weak. To me having to hide your emotions away is weak.
        Jack Faire
        Friend
        Father
        Smartass

        Comment


        • #5
          I don't understand the uber-macho persona that permeates our society, personally. I for one LIKE it if a guy can express emotions beyond the spectrum of just wanting sex, or to see bewbs. (Sadly, yes, that's the majority of my interaction with some men...). Crying isn't bad, nor does it mean you're a wuss or anything else. It's a natural reaction, it's part of being human. I think I have to agree with jackfaire to a point. Yes, hiding emotion is weak, but not necessarily 100% of the time, but that's neither here nor there.

          Bottom line: Boys don't cry = social more implemented by the hypermasculinization in our culture.

          Woo hoo, lookit my college education go!!

          Comment


          • #6
            I don't mind if other men cry, but I never do. Well, I used to when I was a kid, but my dad ordered me not to when I was 11, so I haven't since. That said, I get uncomfortable when anyone cries. I don't know why.

            Comment


            • #7
              I'm watching Battlestar Galactica again and in season 2 episode 5 Bill Adama cries over someone's corpse (avoid spoilers). If Bill Adama can cry then so can men.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by lupo pazzesco View Post
                I don't understand the uber-macho persona that permeates our society, personally. Bottom line: Boys don't cry = social more implemented by the hypermasculinization in our culture.
                You think it's bad in the US, you should see what it's like here.
                I am a sexy shoeless god of war!
                Minus the sexy and I'm wearing shoes.

                Comment


                • #9
                  There's generally nothing wrong with a man crying.. "it's how torture is tortue and humiliation is humiliation only when you choose to suffer." But I think there should be a limit to how much crying is being done. If you're weeping over everything, you may want to see a doctor...

                  That being said, I almost cried this one time I was eating a raw onion when my dad ran up and pulled a hair from my nose, and then died.

                  I've never been a crying type of guy. If I feel tears welling up in my eyes, I yawn and then scowl. For whatever reason, it works. I'm going to have horrible wrinkles. Once, during a movie a shed a single manly tear followed by several unmanly tears. That movie was Marley & Me and it wrecked my face.
                  Crooked banks around the world would gladly give a loan today so if you ever miss a payment they can take your home away.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I used to cry a ton when I was a kid. I was definitely overly sensitive. After getting teased so often, I practically never cried again. First time I cried hardcore since childhood was when my grandfather died two years ago. That's pretty much the only thing I cry about these days is when I think about him.

                    But in the past couple years, I've seen to have developed male PMS. Small, random stuff for some reason makes me tear up. Certain movies. Couple songs (How To Save A Life by The Fray does it every freaking time, especially when it's that one episode of Scrubs).

                    I think it's not really an attitude society has that men can't cry. It's more that men don't cry over the small stuff. Deaths, yes. Divorces/Break Ups, yes. You spilled some milk...no.
                    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Now I would do most anything
                      To get you back by my side
                      But I just
                      Keep on laughing
                      Hiding the tears in my eyes
                      'cause boys don't cry
                      Boys don't cry
                      Boys don't cry
                      "I take it your health insurance doesn't cover acts of pussy."

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        It's so odd because the SO and I are flip-flopped. He is a very emotional person, and I tend to hold in everything. He's been working on getting me to open up to him (slowly but surely)....but it's really hard when he's coming to me all the time upset about something. Usually, it's no big deal, just something that got him upset. There is such a thing as being too emotional. Don't get me wrong, I love my SO. He's absolutely the best thing in my life right now. But it's exhausting for me to deal with all of my crap and his crap and feel like everyone's crying on my shoulder. *sigh*

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bloodsoul View Post
                          Now I would do most anything
                          To get you back by my side
                          But I just
                          Keep on laughing
                          Hiding the tears in my eyes
                          'cause boys don't cry
                          Boys don't cry
                          Boys don't cry
                          Rocco: John Wayne died with five pounds of undigested red meat in his ass. Now that's a man! Real men hide their feelings. Why?
                          Connor MacManus, Murphy MacManus, Rocco: Because it's none of your f***in' business!
                          Rocco: Men do not cry. Men do not pout. Men jack you in the f***in' jaw and say...
                          Detective Greenly: Thanks for comin' out

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                            I think it's not really an attitude society has that men can't cry. It's more that men don't cry over the small stuff. Deaths, yes. Divorces/Break Ups, yes. You spilled some milk...no.
                            Overall as a whole your probably right but all the "Men don't cry" men I Have known meant that Deaths you shrug off. Divorces you get drunk and fight. But you do not ever cry because men don't cry.
                            Jack Faire
                            Friend
                            Father
                            Smartass

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              An odd thing... I don't remember ever crying at the death of a real person I actually knew, however much I loved and missed them, yet I've cried at the deaths of several cats, and occasionally will tear up over a movie. (in case anyone cares, the most recent one was one I'd never have thought to watch, but family picked it out. I think it was called "The Notebook.")

                              But then, some would argue that I'm not a 'real' man anyway and don't count.
                              "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X