Meet the pre-teen beauty addicts

[Lace Neil Singer]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/tex...76&in_page_id=

This story makes me feel ill. Why are these stupid women making their daughters into pedo-bait anyway? Probably to vicariously live thru their daughters. It's sad as well; you're a child for just 12 years but you have the rest of your life to be an adult.

[Dreamstalker]

Great googly moogly *facepalm* I wonder, was this trend inspired by the prosti-tot wear, or the other way around?

Just looked up that pole-dancing kit out of curiosity...it does seem designed for adults (even though the garter looks like something out of a Halloween costume), but little kids would definitely be attracted to the packaging. Ultimately it's up to the parents to not buy it for their kids (that might be a good teaching opportunity as to why they can't have it even though it looks cool)...but with parents these days, who knows?

[ThePhoneGoddess]

I take it you've never spent any time around Mothers who used to be models or Beauty Pagaent contestants. It is a way of life, and it's been that way for a very long time. I knew a girl like that back in the early eighties. She was a gorgeous little girl with a talented singing voice, and her Mother took her to Little Miss Pagaents and singing contests all over the country. She kept herself up like a professional model does---manicures, pedicures, waxes, facials, the whole works. She now works as a Veterinarian------but as a child she wanted to be a model, just like the girls in the story. Kids who want to be musicians often obsess over it and learn instruments from an early age; many singers do the same, as do actors, writers, painters, and many other sorts of artists. Western culture promotes modeling as a glamorous, wealthy career; it is not surprising to me that some girls want to be models from a young age, and emulate the models they see in public. I have a cousin who is exactly that way, she's wanted to be a model since she was 8 years old.

In past centuries acting, and modeling for artists was considered just this side of prostitution. Women who did that kind of work taught their daughters to do that kind of work as well, as there was usually no other choice for them, being the child of someone in an unrespectable profession. One of the most fundamental changes of western culture in the twentieth century was the fact that the entertainment industry went from being a lower class, somewhat sordid business to being the most influential, biggest money making industry in the world. If you're good enough or pretty enough to become a model or a motion picture actress, you can make boatloads of money and have a glamorous life in the public eye.

In past times there were women who would realize their attractive daughter could be the mistress of some rich king, and would groom them especially for that purpose, so they could live richly, even if it was not respectfully.

The fact is that sex and violence have been human entertainment since before recorded history, and some women have been professional beauties for almost that long. I don't see what is "recent" about it.

[Boozy]

The fact is that sex and violence have been human entertainment since before recorded history, and some women have been professional beauties for almost that long. I don't see what is "recent" about it.

The prim and proper Victorian Age is smack dab between those times and modern times. I think thats why people don't realize how debauched human society once was.

They see pictures of great great Grandma in her dress down to the wrists and up to the chin and think, "How stuffy!"

And then there's the Puritan influence. America doesn't have the same history of sex that the Old World has. Its always been a bit more reserved.

[Greenday]

I don't mind seeing a female throw on some make-up and such. But it's a totally different thing to let your kid dress up like a prosti-tot. I mean, wtf? Why not just put your kid on the street corner and sell them for crack or something? I'm in college and I see younger kids wearing a crapload more makeup than the girls I go to class with. Somethings wrong with that.

[AFPheonix]

Several lines from that article that made me guffaw:

Catherine Conheeney says: "Bethany will need to be slim to be a model but I'm working hard to explain that she needs the right balance of food to make sure she's healthy. I've just entered her for a modelling competition to find the next Kate Moss."

I guess her food balance is going to include some crack if she's aiming to be the next Kate Moss....

"One day last year she came downstairs wearing a tiny mini skirt with stockings," she recalls. "She looked like a mini prostitute, and I had to tell her to get changed. She looks 14. It's frightening, but I don't know what I can do to stop her acting and dressing like a mini adult."

Let's see. The kid's 11. She either has to get the money for clothes from you, or gets clothes directly from you. You can stop funding her purchases of prostitute clothes. That's how you can stop her.

Eh. I remember when I was in grade school how much fun it was to get made up by friends (whether we knew what the hell we were doing with the stuff or not), and that frankly even in the 80's kids knew how to be sexual and flirty. It's not anything new. If parents want to stop the trend, they can easily do. They don't even need to alienate the girls from their friends by being too different, because you can by stylish and dress age appropriately too. I fail to see why these girls can't have the best of both worlds, really.

[Lace Neil Singer]

It's this that gets me:

At a recent family party, Catherine recalls how a 14-year-old boy pursued her nine-year-old daughter.

"He wouldn't leave her alone all night, which made me feel very uncomfortable," says Catherine, who runs a furniture business with husband David, 42, in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire.

"But thankfully she told him she was nine and not interested in him.

What if that boy caught that girl alone somewhere? Why does this woman think that a determined rapist is going to take a no from a little girl and suddenly decide against raping her prostitot? She's already said she lets her girl go to the mall and hang out with friends.

[Boozy]

What if that boy caught that girl alone somewhere? Why does this woman think that a determined rapist is going to take a no from a little girl and suddenly decide against raping her prostitot?

There are a few problems here:

First, why are you assuming that this boy is a rapist? There's absolutely no indication he had anything sinister in mind.

Second, you are incorrectly assuming that rapists are interested in how a woman looks, and thus dressing a certain way can provoke rape. Not true.

You are also incorrectly assuming that pedophile rapists want a child with womanly clothes and make-up. Also not true.

In general, I strongly disagree with parents dressing their children as adults, but I don't think these particular points you made are a valid argument either way.

[AFPheonix]

Oh George Carlin, you card:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3av_qRR_DWc

[Lace Neil Singer]

There are a few problems here:

First, why are you assuming that this boy is a rapist? There's absolutely no indication he had anything sinister in mind.

Second, you are incorrectly assuming that rapists are interested in how a woman looks, and thus dressing a certain way can provoke rape. Not true.

You are also incorrectly assuming that pedophile rapists want a child with womanly clothes and make-up. Also not true.

In general, I strongly disagree with parents dressing their children as adults, but I don't think these particular points you made are a valid argument either way.

I'm not assuming anything; you're doing all that. All I did was take a worst case scenerio. And who's saying he would be a pedophile? He might think she's older than she is.