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  • #16
    Learning to conform isn't really such a bad thing.
    In my opinion, that "catering to their whim" attitude only results in a child who grows up thinking they are a special snowflake with the world revolving around them.

    There's nothing wrong with showing a child the "right" way to do things.

    "See, sweetie, if we put the cookies this way, we fit more on. The cookies come out the same size, and are easier to take off when they're baked. Plus, they will cook better and faster."

    The thing is, there's nothing wrong with imagination, either.

    "OK sweetie, we'll do one tray your way."

    Yeah, there's no rule that says cookies have to be a certain size, and cutting them apart isn't such a big deal, but sometimes, there are reasons things are done a certain way.

    My daughter had a great imagination as a child, and I encouraged it. I also taught her that sometimes it's fine to colour outside the lines, but there are also times when the lines have been put there for a reason.

    In the case of the teachers in the song I posted, if it's a science class where accuracy as to colours of plants is important, then, yes, "flowers are red and leaves are green", but if it's an art class or an illustration to go with a writing assignment, then, by all means, use every crayon in the box if you want.

    As to medicating children in order to get them to conform, I find there is far too much of that being done because it's too much work for parents and teachers to take the time with an extremely active child with an active imagination.

    I also find there is way too much labelling going on when it comes to children.

    It's like there is suddenly an epidemic of hyperactive, autistic, bipolar or schizoid children in today's society.

    I blame Sesame Street.
    Last edited by Ree; 05-08-2010, 09:42 PM.
    Point to Ponder:

    Is it considered irony when someone on an internet forum makes a post that can be considered to look like it was written by a 3rd grade dropout, and they are poking fun of the fact that another person couldn't spell?

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    • #17
      I'm so glad that I am not in school right now! I hate to think of all the meds the teachers would demand I be put in. As it was, I had enough problems, with this wild imagination of mine.
      Some artists draw anthro animals, I did (and still do) it with skyscrapers. I remember one of my 10th grade teachers getting all concerned "You don't think this is real..do you?"

      Too bad I was not a Pagan back then. I could have shot back with "I'm an Animist, got a problem with that?" But I suppose even professing belief in Animism might have earned me a nice meeting with the school shrink.

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      • #18
        I always used to draw fantastic animals in art class; such as horses with flames for mane and tails, and with butterfly wings. Luckily, I had a fantastic art teacher who just let me get on with it. I still do draw fantastic animals now, and what's so wrong with that? Stifling a child's imagination is a terrible thing; let them have their fantasy world, as long as they're still in touch with the real world when it's important to be.
        "Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."

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        • #19
          "...and when I show a glimmer of [imaginative] thought, you lock me up, you inject me with drugs and you call it a treatment!"
          - paraphrasing Riker from Star Trek:TNG
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ree View Post
            Learning to conform isn't really such a bad thing.
            In my opinion, that "catering to their whim" attitude only results in a child who grows up thinking they are a special snowflake with the world revolving around them.
            I agree you should make them conform to behaving properly to wearing your clothes properly etc.

            If we had been baking the cookies for a bake sale, or as a gift for someone, or for anyone other than ourselves then yes they should be made the recommended way.

            However when making them for personal consumption as long as made to cleanliness and health standards appearance should be a matter of personal preference.

            Me I don't care what a cookie looks like as long as it tastes like a cookie and I think that something like that is a good place to teach her that her creativity and imagination are okay.
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