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  • #31
    What do you think about nudists? They don't wear anything, yet every nudist I've ever met has a healthy attitude about the body and I've never heard of a sex crime being committed by a nudist.

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    • #32
      Even nudists know there are situations when they need to be covered. Also, they tend to be adults. Not 8 year olds in a dance competition.
      Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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      • #33
        Besides, it's not the amount of skin covered or uncovered. It's the fact that they are wearing lingerie. They're dressed up and dancing like cute little hookers. I mean, maybe some people want to train their daughters to be sluts, but personally, I wouldn't.

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        • #34
          Nudity is not inherently sexual. Sometimes it's just nudity.

          However, shaking one's ass in lingerie is meant to be sexual. It's not being wrongly interpreted.

          As far as the "think of the children" argument, that's never been my point. The kids aren't being scarred by this. It's probably something they'd do at home with their friends. Children like to pretend to be grown-ups, and that's nothing new or wrong.

          Their dance routine made ME uncomfortable as an adult watching it. It was a performance meant to entertain, and I would think that most adults watching that would be squirming too much to enjoy it. I don't want to see kids sexualized. It creeps me out. It creeps out most people. That's why the whole routine was a bad idea.

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          • #35
            Even nudists know there are situations when they need to be covered. Also, they tend to be adults. Not 8 year olds in a dance competition.
            There are nudists of all ages and they do all kinds of things in the nude including dance competitions.


            Besides, it's not the amount of skin covered or uncovered. It's the fact that they are wearing lingerie. They're dressed up and dancing like cute little hookers. I mean, maybe some people want to train their daughters to be sluts, but personally, I wouldn't.

            They aren't wearing lingerie, they are wearing a dance costume. Costumes designed to look good while allowing for a wide array of movements and ventilation. The last time I checked somebody is a slut based on behavior, not based on how they dress.

            Their dance routine made ME uncomfortable as an adult watching it. It was a performance meant to entertain, and I would think that most adults watching that would be squirming too much to enjoy it. I don't want to see kids sexualized. It creeps me out. It creeps out most people. That's why the whole routine was a bad idea.
            The only reason somebody would be uncomfortable watching that routine is if they find the children sexual. In that case its their issue as to why they find children who are not particpating in a sexual act sexual. Obviously the majority of people don't think children are a sexual object and shouldn't have to worry about offending those who do

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
              The only reason somebody would be uncomfortable watching that routine is if they find the children sexual. In that case its their issue as to why they find children who are not particpating in a sexual act sexual.
              Dancing in lingerie is a sexual act.

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              • #37
                The last time I checked they weren't wearing lingerie and also it doesn't get you pregnant. An adult dancing in lingerie can be pretty sexy, but these aren't adults. Do you think a parent bathing a child is the same as a lover bathing another lover? No because the parent isn't aroused and neither is a normal person watching the dance routine.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
                  The last time I checked they weren't wearing lingerie and also it doesn't get you pregnant.
                  They are wearing fishnet thigh-highs with little hearts at the top. Along with very short skirts and lace adorned, bra-like tops. How is that not like lingerie?? Yes, I'm sure they got the items from a dance supply store, but that doesn't take away the connotations.

                  I can't get pregnant from my partner giving me oral sex, but that doesn't mean it isn't sexual. And when I put on fishnet thigh-highs, a bustier, and a short skirt and dance for my boyfriend, it's sexual.

                  I just can't understand why the parents would ever approve of this. Are they trying to live out some twisted fantasy through their kids??

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
                    There are nudists of all ages and they do all kinds of things in the nude including dance competitions.




                    They aren't wearing lingerie, they are wearing a dance costume. Costumes designed to look good while allowing for a wide array of movements and ventilation. The last time I checked somebody is a slut based on behavior, not based on how they dress.



                    The only reason somebody would be uncomfortable watching that routine is if they find the children sexual. In that case its their issue as to why they find children who are not particpating in a sexual act sexual. Obviously the majority of people don't think children are a sexual object and shouldn't have to worry about offending those who do
                    Oh, come on. That dance routine would be considered sexual if adults were performing it. Especially the ending.

                    Nudists, at least the ones I know, don't go nude outside their community.

                    And, yes, they are wearing a costume. It just so happens the costume they're wearing is meant to simulate lingerie.
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                    • #40
                      These dancers didn't go out of their community which is made up of mature people who don't think children are sexual. If you think those dance costumes are skimpy I hope you avoid the beach. Swimsuits are skimpier and some little girls don't even wear tops.



                      And when I put on fishnet thigh-highs, a bustier, and a short skirt and dance for my boyfriend, it's sexual.

                      I'm guessing you aren't a 7 year old girl in a dance troupe. Do you think parents who bath their children are doing so because they think its hot? If a guy baths me I think its pretty sexy. What about feeding somebody in a sexual manner, or giving a massage. There are many things you can do with your partner and do with a seven year old. It doesn't mean they are sexual in both situations.

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                      • #41
                        Except, Red Panda, in this case, it IS sexual. At least the clothing is. As far as the dance goes, that's just dancing. It's what dancing is. But dancing in lingerie? Without at least body suits? That's meant to be sexual, whether or not the girls knew it.
                        Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                        • #42
                          Clothing is not sexual. People are sexual. Situations are sexual. If you think 7 year olds dancing are sexual then that is an issue you should confront but you shouldn't put blame on the parents.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
                            Clothing is not sexual. People are sexual. Situations are sexual. If you think 7 year olds dancing are sexual then that is an issue you should confront but you shouldn't put blame on the parents.
                            Clothing can be used to be sexual. Lingerie is one such type of clothing. I blame any adult who had a say in what the girls got to wear.
                            Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
                              Clothing is not sexual. People are sexual. Situations are sexual. If you think 7 year olds dancing are sexual then that is an issue you should confront but you shouldn't put blame on the parents.
                              There are parents that would punch someone who said, "Oh your only uncomfortable with your daughter in that outfit because your turned on by it"

                              Because of course no parent is thinking about the perverts out there that are turned on by it.
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                              • #45
                                There's a reason many dance schools forbid cameras at their recitals and competitions. It's because there are perverts out there who would be turned on by seeing the girls dance. And yes, clothing can be sexual. Dance moves can be sexual. The parents allowed the choreographer to combine the two in a routine for 8-9 year olds, so yes, they should get the blame.
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