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  • #46
    IF a man complains that a female co-worker is dressed in a way that distracts him then that says more about him than her. Men ought to control their urges in the workplace & if they can't then blaming the woman of their distraction isn't going to help.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Bright Star View Post
      IF a man complains that a female co-worker is dressed in a way that distracts him then that says more about him than her. Men ought to control their urges in the workplace & if they can't then blaming the woman of their distraction isn't going to help.
      Dressing provocatively, on the other hand, is unprofessional and doesn't belong in the workplace. Also, if a man were to show up in something that accentuated his package, for instance, he'd get slapped with a sexual harrassment suit. Not holding women accountable for their appearance is sexism.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
        Believe it or not just because a woman is attractive it doesn't mean she doesn't want to rely on that, as this case has shown.
        um hate to break it to you but did you read the article I linked to?

        "A TV crew followed the curvy Queens mom on her "determined manhunt" in which she gushed about finding a blue-eyed dreamboat with the looks of a George Clooney or Ben Affleck.

        "He'll be happy because I'll be looking like a little Playboy Playmate," Lorenzana chirped into the camera.

        At another point, she giggles as she holds up two giant melons in front of her chest.

        Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...#ixzz0qUZDYSvj


        yup that sounds EXACTLY like someone not trying to get by on looks
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        • #49
          I love when lawyers or anyone really tries to ignore the point. No her desiring lots of male attention doesn't give men the right to objectify her but it does make her look very bad that she worked to get her body for the purpose of male attention and then claims that she is upset by that attention.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by jackfaire View Post
            I love when lawyers or anyone really tries to ignore the point. No her desiring lots of male attention doesn't give men the right to objectify her but it does make her look very bad that she worked to get her body for the purpose of male attention and then claims that she is upset by that attention.
            Lots of women get breast implants so I'm not going to cut her down for that.

            BTW, she isn't upset by the attention. It's a case of a bunch of men who couldn't handle themselves around an attractive woman so they decided to complain about it and jealous women who decided to hate on her.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
              Lots of women get breast implants so I'm not going to cut her down for that.

              BTW, she isn't upset by the attention. It's a case of a bunch of men who couldn't handle themselves around an attractive woman so they decided to complain about it and jealous women who decided to hate on her.
              I am sorry I should be more clear, "Upset with the attention that she was seeking and was told to stop seeking"


              I know women hotter and sexier that are built like her and can manage to find clothes that don't emphasize every curve and men that are big hunky guys that also do the same.

              A lot of the "conservative" outfits I see for women to work in really aren't they are designed to be sexy. My point is that it is possible to dress in functional business attire without being sexy.

              Oh and people turtlenecks are sexy. They are never loose fitting they are always very form fitting in fact and just because something doesn't show skin doesn't mean it isn't sexy.

              If guy dressed sexy at work he would probably get in trouble. Women's business attire needs to be designed to be more business and less casual and it does exist I see it worn but the high end stuff is designed to be sexy.
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              • #52
                Your right jack, just because a woman is wearing an outfit that completly covers her it doesn't mean she is doing enough to not be sexy. A woman should wear a loose burlac sack. Thats the only way she can not look sexy at all and apparently since men can't be expected to control themselves its all up to the woman to not tempt them.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by HEMI6point1 View Post
                  It's a case of a bunch of men who couldn't handle themselves around an attractive woman so they decided to complain about it and jealous women who decided to hate on her.

                  if that really were the case-that "the men couldn't control themselves" the barbaric animals that they all are I think she'd have some sort of sexual harassment suit rather than a "you're all jealous of me because I'm pretty" suit don't you think?
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                    I think she'd have some sort of sexual harassment suit rather than a "you're all jealous of me because I'm pretty" suit don't you think?
                    Yup.

                    I'm sorry, I can't see this as anything but an attention grab. I still hold by my statement that she'll be on reality TV within a year.

                    As far as the aforementioned jealousy - no, I'm not jealous. I am angry, of course, that people, especially women, that are considered "hot" have other options open to them. I'm bitter that I never had the chance to see if I could be an actor, because I wouldn't starve myself to my acting professor's standards. But jealousy? No. If anything, I feel sorry for someone who feels that they have to surgically mutilate their body in an attempt to find "happiness" in a relationship. It doesn't work that way. I'm at the heaviest I've ever been, and my personal happiest. I have what she's tried so hard to get - an amazing relationship with a wonderful guy. Why on earth would I be jealous?

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                    • #55
                      I don't think all guys can't control themselves, I ONLY brought that up because I was actually told, by a fucking supervisor, that I was basically a liability for sexual harrassment the way that I was dressing for work (and for the millionth time, jeans and a tshirt). Oh, the jerk also told me that I was too "chesty" (yes, he said chesty) to wear the shirts I had been wearing to work, and that I needed to cover up better and wear looser fitting clothes so I wouldn't get harrassed, and that there was big worry around the department that it would happen to me.

                      That was the lamest excuse I'd ever heard. Someone was mad at the way I was dressed because I looked better than them (and yes I know who it was, the infamous Ann from my CS tales) and decided to put me in my place.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Red Panda View Post
                        Your right jack, just because a woman is wearing an outfit that completly covers her it doesn't mean she is doing enough to not be sexy. A woman should wear a loose burlac sack. Thats the only way she can not look sexy at all and apparently since men can't be expected to control themselves its all up to the woman to not tempt them.
                        If a well built man wears a turtleneck to work he is asked to change as what he is wearing is provocative. I worked with a man who was told to stop wearing turtlenecks by his supervisor whose plunging neckline left little to the imagination.

                        I already said there is business attire that is not provocative what I was saying is that some articles of clothing are designed to be sexy turtlenecks are one of them.

                        If a man wore "business" clothing that was as sexy as some of the higher end business outfits women wore they would be slapped with sexual harassment suits and fired.

                        Personally I don't think anyone should be "trying to look good" at work their business clothing should be functional not sexy men and women both. Yes sexy outfits on either gender can be distracting.
                        Last edited by jackfaire; 06-11-2010, 10:51 PM.
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                        • #57
                          some articles of clothing are designed to be sexy turtlenecks are one of them.
                          They really aren't all designed to be sexy and besides Isn't what people find sexy subjective? I don't find turtlenecks sexy, on either sex (especially not men).

                          Personally I don't think anyone should be "trying to look good" at work
                          A nicely fitted business suit is making someone look presentable, not sexy. Hell even that dress (the white one) in those pictures she was in wasn't super "sexy" or even skin tight, I could have worn something similar to one of my old jobs when I was working. She doesn't look like she's dressing trampy either. Though she does seem to want attention, and her work record is suspect. Until there is proof either way who's to judge? In all honesty she seems to be milking this thing, and I don't know if she really has a case.

                          But the comments about what women wear to work in this thread are kind of ridiculours, especially the attitude about turtlenecks of all things! Should people be wearing baggy ill-fitting clothing so that they aren't "provocative"?

                          How exactly is this http://media.villagevoice.com/4876969.28.jpg too sexy?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by muses_nightmare View Post
                            But the comments about what women wear to work in this thread are kind of ridiculours, especially the attitude about turtlenecks of all things! Should people be wearing baggy ill-fitting clothing so that they aren't "provocative"?
                            *face palm* honestly I am not even talking about her or the way she dresses. I work with plenty of women who wear presentable business clothing. Other women I have worked with have worn business clothing that is designed to be sexy.

                            There are women trying to look sexy at work. I AM NOT SAYING THIS ONE IS. It just seems like people are saying that no woman would ever and does ever try to dress sexy in the office or try to get by. I have known at least one woman who did this.

                            AGAIN I AM NOT PASSING JUDGMENT ON THIS WOMAN. Whether or not tight clothing is sexy is indeed a matter of perception but turtlenecks are tight clothing.

                            Most male business suits are not tight nor form fitting. If we are saying that anything that doesn't hug the body is "ill fitting" then yes male business suits are ill fitting. I don't think anyone's work clothing should hug their body unless they work with machinery where anything but form fitting clothing (clothing that hugs curves and follows the shape of the body accentuating it) is dangerous.

                            If in people's minds that means jumping from tight clothing to burlap sacks then so be it. I don't work with a single woman that wears form fitting clothing. Their clothing fits well and covers their form rather than following their curves.

                            FOR Example A top that curves out is normal but then should go straight down not curve back in to accentuate and emphasize.l
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                            • #59
                              I wasn't specifically talking about her either (except to use her case as an example), but you seem to be under the impression that well fitted clothing is provocative, at least that's the impression I'm getting (and not just from you either)

                              is this too fitted?

                              What about this?

                              Should women be allowed to wear skirts, lest they be "provocative"? Sure, it's fair enough to say that a shirt so low cut you're falling out is not alright, nor is a skirt that one can't bend over in, and skintight (as in 2 sizes to small on purpose.), but after that things are pretty subjective. If a woman wants to look pretty in a business position, what's wrong with that? Same goes for men who want to look good. And there are in fact some very fitted mens suits, besides that, I find men in nicely fitting suits to be very sexy (well depending on the man of course ), should they have to find something else to wear because someone may find them attractive?

                              on women, clothing that fits well generally follows the curves of their body, because it's naturally what a woman's body looks like. I can't imagine there being a suit that looks terribly fashionable while not following curves loosely at least.

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                              • #60
                                The suit is fine but the undershirt looks inappropriate for work. Men's suits cover everything but neck, head, and hands. That undershirt looks more like she is ready for a date than to work. If guy wore a shirt that showed off skin like that he would get accused of sexual harassment.

                                Most places I have worked the rule is collared shirts for both men and women. If suits required the rule was you should be able to take the suit jacket off and not be work inappropriate.
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