Condoms for kiddies

[Lace Neil Singer]

Perhaps teaching self respect along with the basic mechanics of sex might be an idea? I don't know about anyone else, but what I was taught was the basic nuts and bolts, along with a vague idea of "don't do it before marriage".

Nothing about relationships, respecting your body, waiting til you're ready, peer pressure, pressure from partners, coercion, positive and negative feelings or indeed anything like that at all that would have given all the facts and made it easier to make a mature decision about having sex.

It's not enough to say, "Well, they're going to do it anyway, so we might as well make sure they're protected"; that's like saying, "Well, they're going to stab each other anyway, so we might as well make sure they're both supplied with sterile knives and plenty of plasters."

[jackfaire]

Wow.
That's like seeing a few drops of rain and jumping to the conclusion that a monsoon is starting.

Safe yes and if it is a case of a kid comes to get a condom and is then enrolled in a sex ed course good.

Not really actually Reproduction is teaching about eggs, vagina, penises etc.

Abstinence is teaching don't do this.

If the goal is to teach children to have safe sex then you can't leave sex out of it. I didn't get a comprehensive safe sex course until I was in college. Before then it was, Use a condom, as the catchall protective measure.

The reality is that your either going to teach the kids about sex ed or not. If you are then that means teaching them how to use a condom how to be safe in the standard sex acts etc.

People seem to want to think you can just tell a kid use a condom and that explains everything but it doesn't. Yes a sex ed course that was actually a sex ed course and not just a "here's condoms but don't use them" course will cover all different types of sex acts and how to be safe performing them especially since you already have older kids thinking, "Hey it wasn't covered in sex ed it's not sex"

[Plaidman]

Huh. Guess my schools were the exception to that. They were pretty indept about it. Both the mechinics at it. The emontions. They showed STDs of what happens, videos of teen girls that got pregnet. All this like, between 2 grade and through sixth.

Granted, I still suck at sex, but I at least knew alot about it.

[jackfaire]

Huh. Guess my schools were the exception to that.

Nah my schools pretty much taught the same stuff but they didn't teach how to put on condoms, to use condoms when giving blowjobs, anyway to protect yourself in any sexual acts.

All we were taught is penis goes in vagina all of that other stuff "wasn't sex" so people did freely and often unsafely.

[Greenday]

We covered everything you could imagine. In middle school. Then they just repeated the information in high school.

[Plaidman]

Nah my schools pretty much taught the same stuff but they didn't teach how to put on condoms, to use condoms when giving blowjobs, anyway to protect yourself in any sexual acts.

All we were taught is penis goes in vagina all of that other stuff "wasn't sex" so people did freely and often unsafely.

We were thaught that. They used bananas though to show us, and let us each practice male and female.
They briefy covered female condems, but didn't expand on it.

[jackfaire]

We covered everything you could imagine. In middle school. Then they just repeated the information in high school.

I think that is the way it should be I just object to a blanket sex ed for kids that haven't yet hit puberty because some may hit puberty before junior high case by case basis. Teach reproduction to my daughter, teach her about the changes that will happen to her body but I know she isn't in puberty yet and it would be nice if she got to be a kid as long as possible.

I don't have my head in the sand I know at some point she needs to learn it all and I hope her school teaches it comprehensive or that her grandmother can have that conversation with her I can but I will do it if necessary.

[blas87]

Katt, I don't mean to get too off topic or say I don't believe you, but can you elaborate on the childhood obesity = faster puberty?

The reason I ask for this is because I started developing breasts at age 10, and I have never been overweight in my life.

[AdminAssistant]

The reason I ask for this is because I started developing breasts at age 10, and I have never been overweight in my life.

And I was overweight when I was 10-11, and didn't start puberty until nearly 13, after I had lost a considerable amount of weight.

By the time a kid is ten years old, they already know about sex. I did, all of my classmates did. None of us were doing it, but we all knew about it. I don't think that's too early to talk about 1) puberty and what the hell is happening to your body, and 2) sex and all of its consequences, both emotional and physical.

Abstinence-only sex ed doesn't work. Ignorance doesn't work. Tell kids what's up and do it repeatedly.

[BlaqueKatt]

Katt, I don't mean to get too off topic or say I don't believe you, but can you elaborate on the childhood obesity = faster puberty?

The reason I ask for this is because I started developing breasts at age 10, and I have never been overweight in my life.

did you have a low-fat diet or high fat, high sugar?

article here goes into more detail

There is a range, and this has been part of the problem of establishing the "normal" age of puberty. Girls might enter full-blown puberty anytime between ages 9 and 15; boys between 11 and 17. There is a rise in "precocious Puberty" that is defined as the onset of puberty before age 7 or 8 in girls or age 9 in boys.

Also, historically, the age of first menstruation, called menarche, declined about 0.3 years per decade from the mid-1800s until the 1960s, attributed to better nutrition. Today the average age of menarche is 12.2 for African Americans and 12.7 for Caucasians. Notice it has declined or gotten earlier since the 1800's-so much for the old "girls were married and pregnant by age 12 a hundred years ago" fallacy.

[Hobbs]

Notice it has declined or gotten earlier since the 1800's-so much for the old "girls were married and pregnant by age 12 a hundred years ago" fallacy.

But they were. In some countries, they still are. So how is that a fallacy? I don't think it was limited to "a hundred years ago" since that would mean the early 20th century, but it was something done quite normally from before at least 1850 (estimate figure).

I remember my first sex-ed in 3rd grade. It just showed the basic functions and only boy-stuff for boys and girl-stuff for girls, if I remember correctly. Then in 4th or 5th we had the one where boys learned about girls and vice-versa. I think it was 6th grade or 7th when we learned about STD's the first time.

[Lace Neil Singer]

We were thaught that. They used bananas though to show us, and let us each practice male and female.
They briefy covered female condems, but didn't expand on it.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I ever met a guy with a yellow, bendy dick that peels, I would definitely NOT be having sex with him.

[Rebel]

We were thaught that. They used bananas though to show us, and let us each practice male and female.

Ahahahahahhahaa!!!!
Our class had a fake banana to use as well.
Only thing was, the top half of the yellow peel comes off and underneath was a very realistic looking penis.
Shocked the hell out of us.
And kinda put a few people off bananas for a while (couldn't stop laughing).

[jackfaire]

By the time a kid is ten years old, they already know about sex. I did, all of my classmates did. None of us were doing it, but we all knew about it.

Me and my classmates knowledge of sex at age 10 was limited to snickering when someone said Doing it because we thought of that as a way to describe two people having sex but we didn't actually know what sex was.

[Plaidman]

Me and my classmates knowledge of sex at age 10 was limited to snickering when someone said Doing it because we thought of that as a way to describe two people having sex but we didn't actually know what sex was.

Huh.... I knew sex was at 4.

I knew more when I was 8, though not so much by choice.

Since then, I was obsessed with it until I realized it wasn't going to ever happen. (I stopped obsessing over it at ....20...? 21?).

Naturally I had it a few years later, and I sucked. BAAAAAAAAADLY.


Now it's a passing feeling. Not going to happen again for a long time.