Blind Couple gets child back

[Rebel]

The nurse was there for several sessions so it was an ongoing problem

Where does it say that?

[KnitShoni]

Where does it say that?

Yeah, I didn't see that in either article.

[Nyoibo]

The nurse was there for several sessions so it was an ongoing problem

Yeah, quote the link or that's just making stuff up to suit your arguement.

[ExiledV20]

The nurse trained in breast feeding made an observation on breast feeding, which according to you is wrong because expers should only make observations in their field you agree with otherwise they are unqualified.

No, she didn't make an observation on breastfeeding. She stated the couple were unfit parents, PERIOD. It says so in the article.

Even if the nurse's observation where out of line I don't think she pulled a gun on CPS. They decided she was credible enough to act on her word. How is she at fault if the experts agree with her?

Wrong! There were no 'experts disagreeing with her'. You may not be aware of this, but when you word a report a certain way and put it in the computer, it automatically flags certain procedures to happen. That's what happened here. Unfortunately for the nurse, the court proved she was not qualified to make the statement she did.

The fact is the nurse was in the right but because the couple is disabled and went to the media they get support from the public and politicians who want to look good for a special interest group.

Wrong! The nurse wasn't in the right, the court said no. Had nothing to do with special interest groups. The article pointed that out very well.

If the couple brought the baby home because the nurse was too scared to upset the blind and they killed it through neglect they would be wailing that somebody should have helped them and the nurse would be in trouble for not reporting them, so really, she would be in the same place anyways. At least she was brave enough to think of the baby and not spare the feelings of the people who are suppose to be adults.

Flag on the play!
Opinion unsupported by fact! Citation needed!

[ExiledV20]

CPS won't just take the kids away unless their is an immediate danger.

Not true.

It would have to something along the lines of "He is spanking the child in the face with a closed fist while holding him in the pool."

Not true.

. The trouble for her is these people are a minority and when a member of the majority does something like this to a minority bleeding hearts always assume its because of bigotry.

Oh, I get it now.
Well, funny that the court did decide it was done out bigotry, which is why the court stated that the child being taken away was a civil rights violation. Which you prefer to ignore.

However, I am now glad to confirm that you don't believe in the Equal Protection and Due Process clauses of the 14th Amendment. You poor white, sight woman - so oppressed.

[ExiledV20]

The nurse was there for several sessions so it was an ongoing problem

That's a lie. The article says this occurred in ONE session. There were no further sessions.

[Plaidman]

However, I am now glad to confirm that you don't believe in the Equal Protection and Due Process clauses of the 14th Amendment. You poor white, sight woman - so oppressed.

Don't forget she's also skinny!

(At least internet skinny... with her raw hatred, she's very likely 800 lbs and blames other /fat people/ for /stealing/ her cakes, thus her hatred towards them.

[Racket_Man]

It's more along the lines of "Take the kids away immediately so we can be sure they're not hurt before we finish investigating. Then investigate to make sure it's okay to give them back."

"Innocent until proven guilty" is given a back seat to "for the children".

been there done that experienced that one first hand. was told point blank by a case worker that "You are presummed guilty until proven innocent. you have been tried by a family court judge without your being there, without representation and a decision has been rendered which you can not change or appeal or go to a "higher authority" ".

Except thats not how it works. The innocent kids being taken away cases are far fewer then the kids are abused and keep being abused while the investigation goes on and then later get returned to the home and abused some more.

again Red we need citations for this statement that far fewer innocent kids get taken away. from my experience with CPS it was "QUICK get these NICE innocent children away from those vicisious abusive parents" before ANY investigation was done even if there was strong evidence that the alligations were patently false.

Obviously Red has NEVER had to deal with CPS. Good luck with their logic if they ever do.

[Red Panda]

My dad works for CPS. He has far more stories about the kids that they thought were being abused or knew were being abused and couldn't take out of the home then he has about times he took kids who were not being abused out of the home for no reason other then to delight himself because apparently CPS workers are all evil and take kids away for no reason only to place them with foster families that due abuse them because that benefits them somehow.

Or more likely some people had a bad experience with CPS and now they bad mouth them and over exagerate.

That's a lie. The article says this occurred in ONE session. There were no further sessions.

It says the blind lady's first attempts were clumsy. It is plural. That means there was more then one

[KnitShoni]

Red Panda, have you ever breastfed? Generally, there are several attempts made during any given session.

So, because your dad works for CPS, everyone here is lying?

[Red Panda]

I think stories about CPS get over blown because there is alot of emotion involved and sometimes people refuse to acknowledge that there was an issue at all.

[Mikkel]

All the nurse had to do at that point was teach the mother how to position herself and the child. You don't need sight for that.

If I remember correctly, you just place a finger along the baby's nose to make room, something a blind mother should be able to do as well as a seeing mother, IF she is told to do so.
I wonder if the baby really turned blue, in my limited experience (male, one daughter, two grandchildren) a baby who can't breathe will let go of the nipple long before it suffocates, if they have a cold for instance, but I don't remember if newborn babies do that.

[KnitShoni]

I think stories about CPS get over blown because there is alot of emotion involved and sometimes people refuse to acknowledge that there was an issue at all.

By the same token, though, there are a lot of people who make an issue where there is none.

[Plaidman]

I think stories about CPS get over blown because there is alot of emotion involved and sometimes people refuse to acknowledge that there was an issue at all.

Wow. So, you admit people can overblow and issue because of emotions?

So tell us.... *Plaidman sits in a therapist chair*

What did Fat Person Prime, the one fat person that did something to you to cause this overblown hate?

Did a fat person eat your first birthday cake??

[KnitShoni]

If I remember correctly, you just place a finger along the baby's nose to make room, something a blind mother should be able to do as well as a seeing mother, IF she is told to do so.
I wonder if the baby really turned blue, in my limited experience (male, one daughter, two grandchildren) a baby who can't breathe will let go of the nipple long before it suffocates, if they have a cold for instance, but I don't remember if newborn babies do that.

That's exactly what you do.

Newborns will turn their heads if they can't breathe, unless they are unable to do so.