Rapist? Pedophile? Violent? Criminal? If you love footy, you can stay in Australia.

[draco664]

Huh?

An administrative appeals tribunal has overturned a deportation order.

A convicted rapist (his ex partner), sexual predator (attempted rape of his 12 year old step daughter), thief and drug cultivator has finished his prison term and was scheduled for deportation.

The AAT overturned the order on the grounds that were he deported back to his homeland he would suffer hardship.

Yup. Not 'would be tortured' or 'would be persecuted'. Because he would suffer hardship.

I do love the quote from the Justice Advocate at the end of the article though...

[BlaqueKatt]

Yup. Not 'would be tortured' or 'would be persecuted'. Because he would suffer hardship.

honestly what would you call being sent to another country where you didn't have any friends or family-had no possibility of getting a job, and would thus be rendered homeless by the deportation order?


If anything had happened to my mother while I was growing up my biological father would have stepped in to raise me; however my biological father did not live in the US. He lived in a country that I do not speak the language, and that situation would have forced me into hardship. Heck if anything had happened to her when I was 17 I would've been forced to move to another country-would be totally unable to hold a job or go to school.

[AdminAssistant]

honestly what would you call being sent to another country where you didn't have any friends or family-had no possibility of getting a job, and would thus be rendered homeless by the deportation order?

Too bad, so sad, don't be a pervert.

What I find truly disgusting is the fact that they deported a guy and his 93 year old mother, who were not rapists, but yet they're letting this guy stay? No. If the Australian gov't isn't going to lock up the sicko for the rest of his life, then they should at least 1) boot him out of the country or 2) drop him off several hundred miles into the outback. Let him figure it out from there.

[Skelly]

honestly what would you call being sent to another country where you didn't have any friends or family-had no possibility of getting a job, and would thus be rendered homeless by the deportation order?

"A "misfortune" that he is entirely responsible for"? He's got no one else to blame and should thank his lucky star he's still allowed air that rightfully belongs to us proper humans, not to degenerates like him.
Fucker should've been shot, but the Aussies got weak like everyone else and decided against all common sense that murderers and rapists somehow deserve to be treated as human beings instead of shot like the rabid dogs that they are.

[Greenday]

"A "misfortune" that he is entirely responsible for"? He's got no one else to blame and should thank his lucky star he's still allowed air that rightfully belongs to us proper humans, not to degenerates like him.
Fucker should've been shot, but the Aussies got weak like everyone else and decided against all common sense that murderers and rapists somehow deserve to be treated as human beings instead of shot like the rabid dogs that they are.

I'm damn glad you don't make up our laws.

I agree he got off lightly and should have been booted out, but murdering him for it? Puts us even lower than him.

[Skelly]

I'm damn glad you don't make up our laws.

I agree he got off lightly and should have been booted out, but murdering him for it? Puts us even lower than him.

Bullshit. We shoot rabid dogs, so it's perfectly reasonable to euthanize other beings who have proven themselves to be dangerous as well. Besides, murder only applies to unlawfully killing a human. Since A) He isn't human, despite his genetic makeup, and B) it isn't unlawful, therefor it can't be murder, ergo: bullet to the back of the head, nice & easy and inexpensive. His body can be fed to crocodiles or something.

[Greenday]

Not sure where you are from, but where I'm from, that would be an unlawful punishment. The punishment cannot exceed the crime.

And just because his brain isn't wired correctly doesn't mean he isn't a human being.

[Skelly]

Not sure where you are from, but where I'm from, that would be an unlawful punishment. The punishment cannot exceed the crime.

And just because his brain isn't wired correctly doesn't mean he isn't a human being.

Yeah, I know that a court in the US ruled it illegal to fry a rapist like he obviously deserved a couple of years ago. I just don't agree with it. Rapists are scumbags, and I see no reason to let them continue their lives.

I agree with you regarding that...
however, his actions, in my opinion, have disqualified him from the human race forever. Shoot the bastard and be done with him.

[Plaidman]

Hey Skelly. Let's pretend I'm a girl. I claim you raped me. We go to trail. Jury belives my tears and testomny.

Now you go to prison. Do you belive you should be fried then?

It's been shown, time, and time, and time again, that innocent people do go to prison, even for sex crimes. Hell, alot are only now getting released with dna provening they weren't the ones that did it. Doesn't replace the years they spent in prison. People magazine and 20/20 did an interview with a man that spent like, two decades behind bars for a rape he didn't do. They found the person that did do it, who coinicdently did look ALOT like the first person. That dna matched what was found. (or something else that was proven it was him). The only thing I didn't get was why the innocent man and the woman became friends. I doubted I could be friends with a woman that screamed it was me over and over, adn made me spend a good chunk of my life behind bars and not seeing my family grow up, but they are different people then I.

Just because a jury belived it, doesn't make it true all the time.

But hey, everyone belived you raped a woman, so we'll just shoot you and put you out of our misery.

[Skelly]

Congratulations, you've played the only valid card against capital punishment. Bravo. Doesn't change the fact that there's a large number of sick fucks out there who should be shot. No, I don't want innocents (neither those who actually ARE innocent or those who are guilty but couldn't be found innocent shot). There are however quite a few persons who are guilty as hell, generally sick fucks, and those need to be shot, or for that matter hung if money is an issue and bullets seem expensive. Capital punishment isn't something that should be handed out lightly. We haven't had it here since 1920 or so, and the last who got executed got his head chopped off in 1910. However, I would gladly reinstate it, seeing it as the necessary thing to do after we've had the opposite extreme of coddling with criminals for too many years now, when rapists and murderers get off with basically nothing in the way of sentencing. The sick fucks need to have the fear of the law beaten into them.

[Greenday]

You are either found guilty or not guilty. There's no kinda guilty.

[Plaidman]

Beaten sure. For repeated offenders. I'll grant you that.

If someone repeatedly flouts the law, repeatedly hurts others, I'm for beating them severeally and painfully into agnony.

But for one time crimes? Mistakes happen. People do horrid things that they will live with the guilt and shame for the rest of their lives, but they still deserve a second chance.


But repeateding offenders who can't do anything but hurt others, deserve to have the pain they inflicted on others back at them a thousand times more.

But to shoot everyone that /raped/ someone, without any proof? Something that happens alot? No.

Even repeat offenders don't deserve death. Why give them peace when they hurt so many others. I don't belive in death for anyone. I do belive that some criminals, need to be beaten and hurt, so that they know the pain they inflicted on others. Maybe then'll they'll learn and be a better person.

[BlaqueKatt]

Even repeat offenders don't deserve death. Why give them peace when they hurt so many others. I don't believe in death for anyone.

exactly-most violent repeat offenders are sociopaths-the worst thing you can do to a sociopath is take away their freedom-it's the only thing they value, they do not even value their own lives-only freedom.

[fireheart17]

Funnily enough, Roy Morgan did a survey in 2009 about the capital punishment issue.

Only 23% supported it. 64% were against it. 13% were undecided.

[draco664]

honestly what would you call being sent to another country where you didn't have any friends or family-had no possibility of getting a job, and would thus be rendered homeless by the deportation order?

How about, the consequences of your actions?

Time was people used to be free. Free to succeed. Free to fail. This guy failed big time. And he is being protected from the consequenses of that failure to the expense of law-abiding Australians.

The deportation order was on the cards for 7 fucking years. It wasn't sprung on him overnight. You can't tell me he couldn't learn enough to get by in that time. Especially with all the prison education programs there are now.

He failed at being a person of good character (a *legal* requirement to remain in the country). He had the opportunity to learn what he needed to survive outside of this country. He didn't take it.

Fuck him.

Seriously, when did it become society's burden to protect everyone from their own failures?