New York want to Ban sugary drinks from welfare

[aurelemsrealm]

I also believe that EBT cards shouldn't be accepted at convenience stores. Every week, I see the same people using their EBT cards to buy junk food, energy drinks and sodas with the cards. These same people then turn around and use their cash (actual cash they have in pocket) to buy cigarettes, beer, and lottery tickets. Why the hell does anyone need to be buying that kind of junk every freaking day, week, or whatever when they're using EBT?!

The prices are higher than regular grocery stores, and the only foods with any sort of nutritional value would be the milk, fruits, and maybe some of the heat-and-eat sandwiches. The only other item of any sort of practical value would be the gas or other automotive products needed to keep the car running. The rest of the crap my store sells is junk. The only consolation is that we use the EBT cards exclusively for the food stamp value. We don't offer access to the EBT cash side through our system.

[Racket_Man]

what planet are you on that anyone gets $600 a month in food stamps?

This kind of belongs on the the "If you Breed Them" thread but since you asked.

the planet I live on: Earth

back when I lived in Chicago I personally knew families that had 4 or 5 or 6 or more kids and got that (and maybe more) PLUS cash (TANF Temproary Assistance for Needy Families and AFDC Aid to Families with Depentant Children http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora...Needy_Families http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid_to_...ndent_Children) or cash from welfare

this quote is critical

(AFDC) -->This program grew from a minor part of the social security system to a significant system of welfare administered by the states with federal funding. However, it was criticized for offering incentives for women to have children, and for providing disincentives for women to join the workforce. In 1996, AFDC was replaced by the more restrictive TANF program.

even the govenment recognized that people gamed the system for more (as in LOTS MORE) than should have been allowed.

[Plaidman]

what planet are you on that anyone gets $600 a month in food stamps?

Simple. They lie, and don't ever get checked.

Mom says she lives with her six kids, and has no husband. They get six hundred in food stamps.

Her husband, who does live with her, also states that he lives with his six kids and has no wife. (Gives a slightly different address). He now also gets six hundred dollars a month.

Then, they go to different place, and fill in application but use different address and their children's SS number. Now they get even more welfare.

These are the people that piss me off. That just take the system that is meant to help others, because they are just too lazy to get a job, and want to spit out more babies, to get mroe money.

Not the people that used the welfare for what it's meant to be.

[Boozy]

Something that bugs me with the soda ban is that sometimes it is very convenient for those who bring their own lunch to work. Most individual containers of juice is either more expensive in my experience or the stuff that would be banned for not being healthy. You can fill your own containers but they can leak if they get overturned. I'm thinking about people who work outside or on the go without access to refrigerators or real secure places to store food. When I worked moving furniture I always brought soda with me because it wouldn't spill along the trip and I didn't know if there would be access to water.

There are so many solutions to that scenario that it's a non-problem.

I don't believe that anyone drinks soda only because there are no other cheap options for portability.

I bought a reusable screw-cap water bottle for about the cost of a case of soda, and it doesn't leak. It gets filled with tap water every morning and goes into my handbag.

[Racket_Man]

Simple. They lie, and don't ever get checked.

Mom says she lives with her six kids, and has no husband. They get six hundred in food stamps.

Her husband, who does live with her, also states that he lives with his six kids and has no wife. (Gives a slightly different address). He now also gets six hundred dollars a month.

Then, they go to different place, and fill in application but use different address and their children's SS number. Now they get even more welfare.

These are the people that piss me off. That just take the system that is meant to help others, because they are just too lazy to get a job, and want to spit out more babies, to get mroe money.

Not the people that used the welfare for what it's meant to be.

Plaidman: one more thing you did not take into account. usually MOM is in a section 8 housing unit (most of the cost of rent is paid by the government) and the "Father"/boyfriend/fuck buddy/drugdealer is legally barred from being in the same household (counting or income or whatever) BUT Father/boyfriend/fuckbuddy/drug dealer DOES live there and "hides" or temporaily vacates the premsis when an "inspection" is announced while MOM hides all evidence of him.


this line bear repeating

Not the people that used the welfare for what it's meant to be

as if the people who actaully needed it could access it. during the 90's I experienced periods of unemployment. EVERY single time (yes I did get UE bennies) we applied for food stamps and other kinds of welfare. we were DENIED 4 out of 5 times (well maybe 3 of of 5 cause one time we did get food stamps but only $10 a month)

most the the denial reason were that I made too much from my UE bennie payments. YES the state said I MADE TOO MUCH MONEY to get anything else. and that barely covered our rent but not food, or phone or car gas or much of anything else. and do not get me started on being denied ANY kind of Medicare coverage EVEN for5 our daughter.

there were many many month where we got far behind on our rent cause we had to decide rent or food or car gas (needed to get to interviews) or a phone (needed casue I had to have a reliable way for potential employers to get a hold of me).

It took me running out of UE bennies/money (long period of unempoyment) for us to even be considered. then and ONLY then did we get a decent monthly food stamp allotment

and yet I saw many people getting full welfare bennies (food stamps, cash, section 8, full state Medicare coverage for the adults as well and the kids,etc.) that IMHO DID NOT desrve them in the least. the Moms kept popping out kids and getting even more government $$$$$.

[Andara Bledin]

Not everyone with an EBT card gets cash on their monthly benefits. And limits could be put on the cash transactions, too.

But nothing you can do can stop an EBT person from buying someone else's groceries and then trading for cash outside the store.

I had some deadbeats offer to pay for my stuff at a store once. I let the manager know what they were up to.

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