since when is....

[BlaqueKatt]

premeditated murder considered "girl power"?

Ok so I went out for karaoke last night-and got to hear no less than 6 girls(some in groups) sing the song "gunpowder and lead" and most of them either started or finished with shouting "girl power". Um no just no. Same girls sang "goodbye Earl". Now having been a victim of DV-I find these songs to be both trivializing and highly offensive. I'm sure there are more, but really? WTF is with this trend-it disturbs me greatly, anyone else have any thoughts?

I think Disturbed's Facade is a better written song....

[telecom_goddess]

maybe I'm not awake yet but what is DV-I?

[Kimmik]

I am guessing Domestic Violence - *hyphen* and then I find...

But BKatt I agree, I will try to be more expansive when meds kick in.

[telecom_goddess]

I am guessing Domestic Violence - *hyphen* and then I find...

Duh didn't think of that...like I said I'm not awake yet

[Eisa]

I agree with you. It IS trivializing and offensive. It's not girl power to plot how to murder someone. It's not premeditated murder, but I kind of feel that way about Carrie Underwood's song "Before He Cheats" about going and damaging his truck really badly. That's not ok, even if he DID cheat on you.

Disturbed is just awesome in general. <3 That song also reminds me of Maria Mena's "He's Hurting Me."

[crashhelmet]

Sadly, it's just yet another example of the double-standard in our society. And it's not just reversing the role in the gender of victim and killer. Garth Brooks had to cut out the last verse of his song "The Thunder Rolls" because it ends with the wife shooting and killing the husband. Radio stations and video networks refused to carry it unless he did so. But the Dixie Chicks and Reba McEntire can sing all they want about killing men.

[Greenday]

Female violence against males doesn't exist. Everyone knows that.

/sarcasm

[guywithashovel]

Where are all the people who protested against the misogynistic lyrics in rap music?

On a similar note, is it okay for me to hunt down the people who pushed me around in school and shoot them? For the record, that list includes some females.

[Greenday]

No, obviously only violence against women isn't okay.

[BlaqueKatt]

Female violence against males doesn't exist. Everyone knows that.

/sarcasm

and in the rare instances when it does-well women are tons weaker so it really doesn't hurt....

/more sarcasm

wait I dripped some on the floor...let me clean that up....

[Eisa]

^You know, actually...in my Social Psychology class last Friday, we talked about domestic violence [in regards to aggression]. My prof had something in the notes that was like, "women attack relationship partners slightly more, but due to size and strength, do not do as much harm." WTF?!

[Anthony K. S.]

My prof had something in the notes that was like, "women attack relationship partners slightly more, but due to size and strength, do not do as much harm."

Actually . . . This may sound sad, but that could be considered a step forward.

For the record, the idea that women don't cause as much harm because of their smaller size is nonsense. Violent women have been known to use weapons when they attack their partners.

I once read an article on domestic violence. A social worker described meeting a woman (who had been arrested for assaulting her husband) who told her, "Knives are a great equalizer."

Having said that, that professor's statement could be viewed as progressive because it acknowledges that women attack their relationship partners just as often as men do. There are many people who still believe that (1) the vast majority of domestic violence, as much as 95%, is committed by men, and (2) in the cases where women do attack men, the men must have done something to deserve it.

(There have been documented cases where men, who were abused by their wives, contacted domestic violence shelters for help . . . only to be hung up on, accused of lying, told that they must have deserved it, or, in some of the best cases, referred to homeless shelters. Very few domestic violence shelters actually do offer help to men.)

Just the fact that somebody said that women are equally capable of violence as men are can be considered progress.

Is that sad?

[Eisa]

Yes, that's sad. I wanted to say that technically, OVERALL, it might be less PHYSICAL harm, but the guy being abused would have the same emotional and psychological effects as a girl being abused would. If not more because he's "supposed" to be the strong one.

It's like...yes, women are more likely to be raped and abused and undergo domestic violence. That can't be denied. But that does NOT mean that men don't go through the same damn thing. It's horrible that DV shelters have nothing in place for men.

Another often-overlooked segment of population is when women are abused by other women. Stupid people tend to look at it as "oh that must not have been so bad." Even other abuse survivors will say that. Like just because you were hurt by a man means that someone else hurt by a woman wasn't as badly off. It's not a contest.

[Sleepwalker]

Any cites here?

[Lace Neil Singer]

Sadly, it's just yet another example of the double-standard in our society. And it's not just reversing the role in the gender of victim and killer. Garth Brooks had to cut out the last verse of his song "The Thunder Rolls" because it ends with the wife shooting and killing the husband. Radio stations and video networks refused to carry it unless he did so. But the Dixie Chicks and Reba McEntire can sing all they want about killing men.

Weird how that never happened to Nickelback. O_o They have a song called "Never Again" which is about domestic violence that ends with the wife shooting her husband.