"Virgin" Bikini Waxing for 8yr old girls

[IDrinkaRum]

I don't shave my legs during winter. Keeps my legs warmer that way. Besides, in winter, I'm always wearing pants so no one but me (and Mr. Rum at night) knows if they're shaved or not. (And now ya'll do to ... aren't ya'll lucky? )

Otherwise, I shave my armpits and my legs during the year.

Mr. Rum likes to shave me "down there." I prefer it. Especially when "Aunt Flow" decides to come for a visit. With the hair ... let's just say ... hair and heavy blood flow ... not a pretty picture.

Mr. Rum loves it when I'm shaved.

However, I am not going to drag Child Rum someplace where they can give her a bikini wax. No way. When she's older and needs to start shaving her armpits & legs, I'll show her how to do it. Also, unfortunately, she's inherited Mr. Rum's unibrow. Poor kid. That's going to have to get fixed when she's older too.

[BlaqueKatt]

Also, unfortunately, she's inherited Mr. Rum's unibrow. Poor kid. That's going to have to get fixed when she's older too.

why?

What I'm asking is "why force or teach her to conform to what others think rather than teach her to be a self-confident free thinking individual that values things other than outward appearance?"


Sorry I was raised in such a manner that I was confident enough in myself to know that I didn't need makeup or perms, or to shave if I didn't want to. I never understood the parents that pushed their body issues onto their children. It usually starts in teens, which teens have enough issues to deal with without having their parents tell them "well you need to fix that unibrow/shave your legs/lose 15 pounds" When they could be telling them "You don't have to conform, you can be your own person, pay no mind to what others think."

[IDrinkaRum]

I'm only saying she'd have to get her unibrow taken care of is because I'm afraid of what her classmates will say/do because of it. The hair between the eyebrows (above the bridge of her nose), isn't very dark nor is it thick, and you can only really see it when you're up close to her. Otherwise, it doesn't bother me.

[Plaidman]

Gotta side with IDrinkaRum on this blaq. People just make fun of how others look. People done that due to my eyes. I can't change that. A unibrow can be changed.

[blas87]

In all fairness, not all women wear makeup or color their hair because they think they are ugly.

I have gone through a period where I thought myself a monster because I had moderate to sometimes severe adult acne from age 20 to the present. It has been simmering down in recent months, but it's always been present. I haven't had a zit-free face in years. One or two, hell, three pimples don't bother me. But especially when I was 20-22, I would often have pimples going across the underside of my chin, around my lips, under my nostrils, around the sides of my nose and on the sides of my face. It was so gross. I had to cover it. I would not have been able to leave the house without cover up.

Acne is natural but that doesn't mean we shouldn't combat it, just like a unibrow. It's funny looking and embarrassing, same as overly thick or dark facial hair on a lady.

But other than that, I've always thought of makeup as a way to accentuate things. For work, it makes me look awake. For play, it's so I can be girly and glam, because that's my style, and it's cramped 5 days out of the week because of the job I do. No need to wear a lot of makeup or have cute hair for work, so why not have fun when I have some time off? I love to experiment.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Exactly; I dye my hair and wear makeup for me, myself and I. Not cuz I think I'm ugly or for men, but for me. I don't see why women should have to have gorilla legs, wear sacks and go barefaced just to show people that they have love for themselves.

It took me years to love myself; I thought myself fat, ugly and worthless. Now I've gotten past all that, I'll shave legs pits and down there, I'll wear short skirts and heels, and put the makeup on if I want. I want to look and feel a million dollars whenever I leave the house.

Of course, if I'm just going to be slobbing round the house, it's comfy trousers and jumper and no makeup. XD

[AdminAssistant]

I'm with Lace and blas. I don't wear a lot of makeup very often, and my hair is often in a ponytail. But for nice occasions, I like to make sure I'm shaved, hair fixed, makeup, nice clothes, matching bra and undies, etc. It makes me feel better.

[BlaqueKatt]

I'm only saying she'd have to get her unibrow taken care of is because I'm afraid of what her classmates will say/do because of it.

and that proves my point-you're worried what others will think or do, rather than teaching her the opinions of others should have zero influence.

kids picked on me because I had crooked teeth-did I rush out to get braces? Nope they're still crooked. When they realized that didn't bother me, it was my initials, that didn't bother me either. Then when they ran out of stuff they started making shit up. It's always going to be something, you "fix" one thing they find some other flaw to exploit, best to just accept yourself for who and what you are.

If I shaved my legs and put on make up and got rid of my grey hair, what exactly does that change about who I am? Not a damn thing-it's superficial, and in my opinion pointless.


A woman who has self-confidence shouldn't care what others think-the defensiveness("I do this for me, not anyone else") and jumping on me for my opinions is the hallmark of insecurity-why does anyone on here give a damn what I think about anyone else?


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[AdminAssistant]

kids picked on me because I had crooked teeth-did I rush out to get braces? Nope they're still crooked.

When I have kids, I pray that I can afford to put them in braces. Too many dental problems can arise from not straightening teeth. (Fiance never did, and he has overlaps. Guess where he gets cavities?)

If I shaved my legs and put on make up and got rid of my grey hair, what exactly does that change about who I am? Not a damn thing-it's superficial, and in my opinion pointless.

Shaving my legs doesn't change who I am, and neither does putting on makeup or tweezing my eyebrows. It changes how I look, and I feel that it's for the better.

A woman who has self-confidence shouldn't care what others think-the defensiveness("I do this for me, not anyone else") and jumping on me for my opinions is the hallmark of insecurity-why does anyone on here give a damn what I think about anyone else?

I don't think it's a matter of caring what you think. It's a matter of explaining why we do certain things. I don't shave my legs because I'm insecure. I shave them because I feel sexier when I do it. When I feel sexier, my self-confidence boosts. Besides, Fiance prefers it. Now, I'm sure you'll jump all over me for doing something for a man, but you know what? He does things for me, too. He shaves his face but keeps a goatee because I like it. He trims his downstairs because it makes for better oral.


Now, I do wish my Mom hadn't been SO insistent on certain things when I was a teenager - literally holding me down while she popped my zits and plucked my eyebrows to near non-existence. Now, I can't stand the littlest bit of acne on me (or Fiance). Drives me nuts. My eyebrows literally can't grow in places because of the scarring from ingrowns. But there's a compromise between what my Mom did and not at least giving teens the tools they need should they choose to tweeze, shave, wear makeup, etc.

[Racket_Man]

speaking as a guy here-----

while it is NICE for the woman to be smooth *downthere* unless you shave or trim (however you choose to do that particular function) or somehow remove the hair on a REALLY regular basis, the little hair stubble can be quite painfull to us guys' *sensative private area* (yes I have had that "experience" on more than one occasion and it did ruin the "romantic" moment sorry sandpaper does not make for good "fun time")

now having said that I really do not like the "overgrown neglected Hedge-row" thing either. that too is painfull, but in this case, to both parties (massive hair pulling/parting is no fun either).

Yes I have trimmed/partially shaved *down there*, though not "everything" ie, just enough hair trimmed/shaved out of the way for certain things.

but to do this to an 8 YEAR OLD boarders on abuse esp considering the pics that were included at the top of the article.

[ZedOmega]

...there's so many things wrong with the idea that article talks about that I don't have a clue where to start. Oh, wait!

Let's start off with the fact that the procedures are actually green-lighted for children. Now, I don't really care what a woman does with her nether regions once she reaches voting age (in fact, I'm going to make a side trip into TMI territory and admit that I honestly like it when a woman does a little bit of gardening now and then), and overall, it's the woman's choice. But people are bringing their daughters into these places for waxing?! That's a level of sick I'd rather not think about.

Then you have the fact that the... what's the word for the people that actually do the waxing? The person they spoke to about it giving discounts. What the hell kind of businesses do the ones doing this for kids cater to-- you know what, let's just skip that question for now. What little of my sanity is just going to go towards this last comment:

What... the... fuck?

[Lace Neil Singer]

I don't think it's a matter of caring what you think. It's a matter of explaining why we do certain things. I don't shave my legs because I'm insecure. I shave them because I feel sexier when I do it. When I feel sexier, my self-confidence boosts.

This.

As I said before, if I'm just slobbing round the house, I don't bother slapping on the makeup, or shaving my legs, or wearing sexy clothes. If my fiance comes round to visit, he doesn't expect it either. We'll just have a nice comfy time and watch a movie or something.

However, if I'm going out, I like to shave, put on makeup and nice clothes. I do this regardless of whether I'm going out with friends or going out with my fiance. Why? Cuz as I said before, it's for me. A good example is my hair. My fiance would like me to have it long, but I much prefer it jaw length. He accepts this. I used to have my hair blonde with pink in front; my fiance didn't really like the colour, but cuz it's my hair, I get to choose what colour it is. Now tho, my hair is red with blonde in front, and both of us like it. XD

Being empowered isn't about denying oneself the chance to look and feel beautiful. It's about doing these things for yourself, rather than for men or cuz you're worried about what people think.

Before my fiance and I got together, he used to hold off from dressing adventurously out of worry of what people might think. Now tho, he's happy to wear stuff like gothic trousers for example, or to dress up as Alice Cooper on Halloween, thru my influence. We're even planning one day to go and see Alice Cooper with my fiance dressed as him, and me dressed in a sexy nurse's outfit. Will people stare? Probably. Will I give a toss? Nope.

[blas87]

I agree as well, there is nothing wrong with making yourself pretty and feel like a woman. It's not being subservient to a man's expectations or being un-natural or being insecure.

I don't see the point in letting myself go to my natural state of a blonde female chimpanzee to be considered confident and natural.

Natural to me is not forgetting who you are. I know that no matter what I put on my face or what color I dye my hair, under there is still me, and nothing I do to myself changes who I am underneath it all. I will always be me.

[DGoddess]

This is probably a gross overshare, and please pardon me, but as soon as I saw hair growing down there as an older kid, I shaved it off and have been religiously ever since.

But I can't fathom that for 8 year olds. How many 8 year olds have pubic hair? That's alarming if a lot do.

I don't know of any who do, unless they suffer from precocious puberty. Even so though, 8 years of age sounds too young to have to be concerned with bikini waxing.

Just there mere thoughts of any mother allowing a child that young to have that done is just too much for my brain to take right now.