Blatant sexism

[Peppergirl]

Indeed he did.

Bedlam, can you describe the post, please?

Nah, he's taken his toys out of the sandbox and is going home in a snit.

Good riddance, I say.

[Boozy]

Yep. My test post is missing now.

"Test" post?

Openly admitting to trolling isn't smart.

[FArchivist]

No. But it is wrong to go on a public crusade about it. <snip> There's a right way and a wrong way to do things, and this is the wrong way.

I have to disagree with this sentiment. It's too much like tone argument for me.

[Andara Bledin]

I have to disagree with this sentiment. It's too much like tone argument for me.

It has nothing to do with tone and everything to do with method.

Right way: Report offending posts to the mods with the reason they're disallowed.
Wrong way: Write a rant about a perceived inequality that gets proven to be inaccurate.

CS has five times the active membership as Fratching, and yet nobody felt the need to report his post (which was a troll as much as anything else) any more than they felt the need to report the posts he was complaining about.

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[Canarr]

Until you've menstruated a week in my tampon, don't come bitching to me about equality and sexism. Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

Is it wrong that I want to applaud this post?

Well, this thread entertained me, so I'd say, this bedlam-fellow has justified his existence. Today, at least.

[BigGiant]

I'm sorry, but this:

Until you've been spoken down to, openly ogled, had random parts of your body groped while you walk through a crowd, been expected to defer to a male simply because of his Y chromosome, called all sorts of names when you don't agree to fuck a complete stranger on the street, etc etc, you can't really claim to know anything about sexism.

Is a big steaming pile of crap.

What you're essentially saying is, "You can't be a victim because I'm more of a victim!!!"

I don't know how many times in my work that I've seen women get preferential treatment simply because they are women. Whether it is getting out of doing "heavy work", or getting out of trouble because they turn on the waterworks. Not to mention promotions based simply on, "Well, we need a woman in management."

How about just in general, it being assumed that because I have a penis and testicles that I can't be as good a nurturing parent to my kids?

[iradney]

Don't be sorry BigGiant. I'm not denying that men have it rough. They do. It's assumed they cannot be as a good as parent as a mom, that they cannot be kind and nurturing, they're not allowed to really show emotions etc. God forbid they try and become househusbands, they must be pussywhipped (not my opinion, I think men and women can do things pretty much equally, barring a few physical differences of course).

However, women have had it a lot worse over the ages. You don't hear about men being carried off as spoils of war. You don't hear about men being married off to rich old women that they don't even know. Hell, women didn't even have the vote until last century; and had very few rights. In some countries, rape within a marriage is not even recognised as rape, as the woman is the husband's "property".

Things are changing for the better yes, but I disagree with affirmative action. Someone should be hired because they're the one for the job, not because they have tits, or the right skin colour. People shouldn't be judged because they have long hair, or tattoos or like Cliff Richard.
While I'm in my little dreamworld, I'd like a flying unicorn as well.

[Plaidman]

Even Batman has hit women. I always liked that scene.

Not because I belive in hitting girls at all, but the woman just killed a man and giggled at Batman "You can't hit a girl!"

Batman slammed her. "Your not a girl. Your a criminal"

[blas87]

If we want to split hairs and whine about who has it worse, you can come work with me where I have personally been talked to about my language, while the boys I work with (and it's all boys and just me, save for a few older women who work in their own area elsewhere in the room) are allowed to swear as much as they like, because it's not "ladylike" to swear.

That and I have had my ass ridden like an angry prison inmate because of a malfunctioning machine or product that is so compromised that it cannot be done in a timely manner, while all the boys I work with stand around/sit around all night and talk amongst themselves, taking their sweet time to do anything, and I'm the one who gets reamed when we don't get quota.

And my boss is female. So take that and stick it in your pipe and smoke it.

[Plaidman]

Ahh see that's the deal Blas87. Your a threat to her being the woman, and all the guys are her pawns. They may flirt with her, and she loves it so she lets them off easy. Or she may be afraid to boss them around because she's a woman.

Or she's just a bitch XD.

[BigGiant]

I absolutely agree with this:

However, women have had it a lot worse over the ages.

But just because women have been (and in most cases still continue to be) 'bigger' victims of sexism than men does not diminish the fact that men are also victims, and doesn't diminish how it makes them feel about it.

It's like an amputee looking at a guy that is in pain and bleeding all over the place because he just got stabbed in the arm and saying, "What are you crying about? My arm got cut off. You shouldn't be complaining, you've only got a knife sticking out of your arm."

Both folks are hurt, one worse than the other, but that doesn't mean the other has no right to feel pain. Which is exactly what

Until you've menstruated a week in my tampon, don't come bitching to me about equality and sexism. Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

is saying.

[BigGiant]

Blas-

No splitting hairs about who has it worse...where'd you get that from?

Please read my previous post.

[blas87]

Part of it Plaid is because I haven't worked in that area as long as the boys and she knows them better and I think she's used to them and just doesn't care enough any more. But because I'm still newer there and I must have wow'ed her enough at one point, she may worry that I'll become like them. But in all the years I've worked there, that should be concrete proof I will NEVER be a fucking slacker. I am a hard worker, through and through, no matter what area or shift or people I work with and around.

Oh, another wonderful thing about being a girl, speaking of all the boys....did you know I'm fucking all of them? That's right, because I get along very easily with guys and I'm more of a guy's girl, that must mean I fuck every guy I see. Because guys and girls can't be friends. There are a few people who give funny looks when they see me interacting with the boys. They think the boys only like me because I have big boobs and pretty long blonde hair and big fluttering eyelashes. Or maybe it's because we like the same stuff and we have common interests and we like to make fun of the same people, since that's a favorite past time at every factory. Maybe it's because instead of talking for hours on end about makeup and hair and clothes (which I DO love, very much, but can't talk about it the way other girls can forever) I'd rather talk about cars and Stallone and guns and dirty things and make nasty jokes. Because I'm a nasty girl. Always have been. And women tend to hate me because I get along with boys/men so easily.

I don't really think either gender has it better than the other, just wanted to get some unfair things off of my large chest.

[BigGiant]

lol, no problem Blas. Nothing wrong with a little venting.

I'm sorry you have to go through all of that. I see the same thing happen to women where I work. If they don't get along with the guys, they're frigid bitches...if they do, they're sluts.

[blas87]

I am glad I can vent and be heard and supported

Anyway, you were right previously, splitting hairs was the wrong term. My bad.