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  • Urban Violence & Black-On-Black Crime

    Here we have, without a doubt, a tragic story. A Sophomore honors students from Seton Hall University attends an off campus party at a rental house in a sketchy neighborhood of East Orange, NJ. Sometime after midnight, a young man from the neighborhood attempts to crash the party, but is turned away and physically removed. Several minutes later, he returns to the party with a gun and opens fire - amidst the panic, the young woman tries to help a friend of hers who has been wounded and is shot in the head. When it is over, several have been wounded and the young woman's wound proves to be mortal. She dies the next day. The young woman was African American, from Virginia, the daughter of a military family and wanted to use her psychology degree to work with war veterans suffering from PTSD.

    The manhunt finds the alleged murderer a few days later hiding in an apartment in the neighborhood. He is a 25 year old black man with 2 children - and a short arrest record mainly related to drugs. A few days later his alleged accomplice - a 19 year old black man - is arrested in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. The human toll of the shooting is now the loss of a life full of incredible promise, the wounding and trauma of party guests, friends and family of victims - and the lives of two young men who will likely spend the next 5-7 decades in prison and the children who will grow up essentially fatherless.

    Like I said - the news has been buzzing with this. Of course, it is a big story. It fits a lot of narratives about urban centers and violence and can be sensationalized easily. The victims are college students - predominantly African Americans - whose paths to success have been either destroyed or seriously marred by a blight of violence.

    Some may wonder as to what degree this represents another difficult and sensitive topic - namely, so-called "black on black" violence in our cities. While the party goers were college students not from the neighborhood, the party was hosted by an historically black fraternity, the victims are predominantly African Americans and the murder suspect is a black man. Although not entirely typical, the violence has echoes of what many consider to be a serious and vexing problem in urban communities.

    Talking about black on black violence is a topic that I approach delicately. First of all, it is an phenomenon born of experience far removed from my own. No amount of study is going to provide me with the experience of actually being a black man in American society. Additionally, the topic has a terrible way of bringing out unabashed racists - check out the comments sections for many news services carrying this story and you will see a horrendous exercise in Stormfront commentary. Even those not consciously racist can end up drawing upon rehashes of The Bell Curve and it never seems to matter that Stephen Jay Gould demolished that argument over a decade before it was ever published. Finally, there is some serious question about whether or not the term "black on black violence" makes any sense at all or is simply a convenient way to put a media-ready trope onto the black community.

    But it is hard to escape the conclusion that there is some shocking violence suffered by black residents of urban communities that comes from other black people. When our cities were engulfed in high murder rates through the 1970s and 1980s everyone buzzed about the terrible crime problem. But, as an example, from a high of nearly 2500 murders in 1990, NYC has seen total murders fall to under 500 a year, resulting in endless praise. But even as we've stopped talking about the terrible crime problem in the inner city, the victim of murder is more likely to be a young black man killed by another young black man.

    Some difficult to sort out thoughts on all of this:

    First, it is very likely that the issue is seriously overplayed in the media. While it is true that most murder victims are blacks murdered by other blacks, it is also true that the split between black and white victims of murder is not enormous. Further, the vast majority of whites are killed by other whites. Given that many communities are de facto segregated, that isn't a surprise. Nevertheless, the fact that blacks make up more than half of murder victims in a society where they are less than 15% of the population should raise concern.

    Second, the question of gun availability is a factor. People like to comment how people seem to reach for guns these days, and that may well be true. It is not true that violent responses to small provocations are entirely new, however. The image of the bar brawl comes to mind as an example. And the fact is that the country is quite literally awash in guns and the vast majority of them are never fired at another person. While I won't guess at the reasons of someone who responds to an insult with gunfire, it is logically not the gun that is doing the thinking - it is the person.

    We also have to wonder about leadership in the urban black community. By this I don't mean there aren't leaders in cities; there are without doubt brilliant and brave African American teachers, school administrators, and church leaders who are all inspirational. For some reason, they have never gained national recognition, and I do occasionally wonder what would the country be like if Dr. King and Malcolm X had not been murdered.

    And this thought is likely to spawn a lot - but I just don't think you can ignore the unique history that has kept some many African Americans in inter-generational poverty. I've read postings here that claim most poor are poor because of their "bad choices". That's hideously simplistic. If it is true that you need money to make money, then the most recent report on consumer finances by the Federal Reserve should give anyone pause. The data is clear - black families have ten cents for every dollar whites have when you calculate total wealth. Ten. Cents. That means that if TODAY African American families in urban poverty began the stereotypical "immigrant" path of working poverty in the first generation, working class in the second, middle class in the third and high status middle class in the fourth, it would be TWO MORE GENERATIONS of black families. And that would presuppose that the same opportunities for advancement are available today that were available to my great grandparents in 1910. With the loss of lower skill but well payed manufacturing jobs that propelled my grandfather's generation to the middle class, I have my doubts.

    It isn't just poverty, though. The American narrative on civil rights often goes like this - "Once upon a time, there were some very bad people who thought blacks were inferior, but then Dr. King came along and everything is better now." That's infantile, but pervasive. Slavery may have ended over 140 year ago, but there was also a system of apartheid and abject racial terrorism for 100 years after that. Another historical fact people overlook is The Great Migration where millions of black families fled southern states to relocate to northern cities. Odds are that if you know an African American in a northern city today, his family relocated in the 1920s. And this is what they fled:





    So in addition to slavery, apartheid and terrorism, millions of people were completely displaced in the 1920s and 1930s. That means being effective first generation immigrants not in 1865, but over 70 years after Emancipation.

    The effects of this cannot be dismissed just because we passed some progressive laws in the mid 1960s. Laws cannot quickly erase the kinds of inequality that plagued and continue to plague urban black communities until today.

    But THAT'S not explanatory enough either. There are 10s of millions of African American families in urban poverty and the vast majority of them are not criminals. There is obviously a choice that is made by some people, conscious or not, to respond to circumstances with violence. There are plenty of people who describe the killer in the Seton Hall murder as an "animal" and it is tempting to chalk up such depraved acts to a fundamental flaw in character. But we should not be willing to go there - it would mean that far too many black men in America should be simply given up upon (back to the The Bell Curve argument there).

    Many of the black youth of today are angry. Angry at poverty they are born into. Angry at a society that shows them almost unbelievable wealth and almost no way to see themselves achieving it. Anger that has some legitimate roots especially as they look at a school system meant to be the way to advance from poverty but has very few examples in their lives of that happening. And this anger becomes self-sabotaging; in education, in choices, and in life. You need goals to make that anger into productive anger and those goals are not promoted by the institutions (schools, government) that should be promoting them.

    You could say that this is my way of wondering what is missing from the live of some people that they cannot imagine meaningful goals for themselves and end up as the two young men in this tragedy. And what can be done for the two little children of the alleged killer who are likely to grow up without their father in a poverty-stricken community so that the anger they may grow to feel doesn't end up where he did. But I know what is missing and I already know how it got that way - and I see no way of solving it, myself, without radical changes to society.

    What do you think?

  • #2
    I read a study some time back that was collecting data from refugee camps to try to study violence and it's causes.

    They found that perceived disparity of wealth and social status was the primary and greatest factor that would lead to violence.

    Because the top rung of our society appears to be completely unattainable for the vast majority of the members, those at the lowest rungs, as well as those of the same groups who are up to a few rungs higher, are much more prone to committing violent acts.

    These acts were usually not actually directed at those seen to be at the top of the social order, but often at those who were close to the same level as the perpetrator, and often of the same group.

    My take on it was that those committing the violence had reached a point where they had been pushed beyond their tolerance and essentially snapped, lashing out indiscriminately at whoever has the misfortune to be present.

    ^-.-^
    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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    • #3
      I saw this a lot in KC. The poorest neighborhoods were right next to some of the richest neighborhoods, and needless to say, there's a lot of theft, a lot of panhandling, and a lot of crime. The poor (which is predominantly black, but also includes some whites and Hispanics) are unhappy, nowhere to go, nothing to do. Educational opportunities aren't there - the KC school district is one of the worst in the nation and recently closed half its schools, mostly in the poor areas. The rich whites are leaving the city for the 'burbs, creating sprawl and a cultural vacuum. And then, because they still want to go to the city for fun, they create this "Power and Light" district downtown, which resulted in forcing out a lot of small businesses and residents so they could put up crappy chain restaurants and institute racially-driven dress codes. The city is still practically divided by the old segregation line (Troost Ave. and those who have been there know what I'm talking about).

      It's sad, it really is. Good educational opportunities could really be the solution here, but nobody seems to be interested in educating the poor (in urban or rural settings). Hell, Republicans are currently blocking a measure that would help schools fund more free lunches for students who can't afford them.

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      • #4
        Why waste the money on schools, when a good chunk doesn't even bother to show up? Some students even attack teachers or other students. They choose not to get an education, and then blame the education system when they get thrown in jail or prison for commiting crimes.

        As is, those who choose to go to school and get an education even in the worst schools can and do go far.

        Does it suck the school system has so little money? Yes. Alot. But it isn't the lack of money that causes students to go nuts, it's the students who choose not to go to school and stay at home or with their buddies to drink or do drugs or do nothing or do crime.
        Toilet Paper has been "bath tissue" for the longest time, and it really chaps my ass - Blas
        I AM THE MAN of the house! I wear the pants!!! But uh...my wife buys the pants so....yeah.

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        • #5
          Plaidman,
          I remember seeing a news story about a valedictorian who couldn't graduate cause she failed the TAAS test.(Texas' standardized test that they make everyone take.) She was from an inner city school and let me tell you she was real upset, so was the school. Not all inner city kids are druggies and criminals, there are those who want to learn and work and make better lives for themselves.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Akasa View Post
            Plaidman,
            I remember seeing a news story about a valedictorian who couldn't graduate cause she failed the TAAS test.(Texas' standardized test that they make everyone take.) She was from an inner city school and let me tell you she was real upset, so was the school. Not all inner city kids are druggies and criminals, there are those who want to learn and work and make better lives for themselves.
            How that possible? Where is this story? Then again, if the valedictorian had only C's as the best possible grade, then it any wonder she failed?

            I know that not all inner city kids are druggies and criminals. There are some that have real heart and try their damnest. But if she was valedictorian, she shouldn't have failed at all. She ether couldn't read well, couldn't do math, or spelling, or science or something she didn't study well enough. I highly doubt the TAAS test had a bunch of physics or neurobiology or various sciences for college students getting their masters. There was a reason she failed, and it wasn't because the test.
            Toilet Paper has been "bath tissue" for the longest time, and it really chaps my ass - Blas
            I AM THE MAN of the house! I wear the pants!!! But uh...my wife buys the pants so....yeah.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
              I saw this a lot in KC. The poorest neighborhoods were right next to some of the richest neighborhoods, and needless to say, there's a lot of theft, a lot of panhandling, and a lot of crime. The poor (which is predominantly black, but also includes some whites and Hispanics) are unhappy, nowhere to go, nothing to do.
              Sounds like my city as well. Nearly all of the crime in the city...happens in the poor neighborhoods, which happen to be mostly black. As such, most people tend to avoid those areas. That's why there aren't any shops or other businesses nearby. Some businesses, tried to stay open (like the grocery store in Hazelwood), only to eventually close because of high theft and several robberies. Now, the good people (what few there are) can't even buy a loaf of bread in their neighborhood--the only option is to take a bus to the South Side, or Greenfield.

              I can't really feel any sympathy in that case--they did it to themselves. How? They chose not to take care of the people robbing from their grocery store, or deal with the crackheads shooting each other in the streets, or the thugs breaking into homes, or holding up motorists. Such things tended to drive away other residents...not to mention dollars that would have been spent in the stores.

              And yes, I'm one of the people who, when driving through the area, feels uncomfortable. Not because the residents are black, but because of the things I've seen over there--several drug busts, the gunshots heard at night, fights, and...what happened a couple of years ago. I had someone use his car to block the road and threaten me...simply because I was behind him in traffic. That's why most people tend to put their foot down, and zip through the area.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Akasa View Post
                Plaidman,
                I remember seeing a news story about a valedictorian who couldn't graduate cause she failed the TAAS test.(Texas' standardized test that they make everyone take.) She was from an inner city school and let me tell you she was real upset, so was the school. Not all inner city kids are druggies and criminals, there are those who want to learn and work and make better lives for themselves.
                The only story I could find was about Bridget Green, and she was from New Orleans. She passed the English portion of the test, but failed the math part, even though she had an "A" in second-level algebra.
                Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by KnitShoni View Post
                  The only story I could find was about Bridget Green, and she was from New Orleans. She passed the English portion of the test, but failed the math part, even though she had an "A" in second-level algebra.
                  I found that one, as well.

                  It wasn't about the standardized testing; it did the one thing it's good for and caught someone who shouldn't have been passing. It was about what happens when schools are willing to lie about the aptitude of their students. To give the girl credit, she's working hard to get her math skills up to what the teachers have been telling her they were all this time as opposed to actually teaching her math.

                  ^-.-^
                  Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                    I found that one, as well.

                    It wasn't about the standardized testing; it did the one thing it's good for and caught someone who shouldn't have been passing. It was about what happens when schools are willing to lie about the aptitude of their students. To give the girl credit, she's working hard to get her math skills up to what the teachers have been telling her they were all this time as opposed to actually teaching her math.

                    ^-.-^
                    There is that. There is no way she should have been given the "A" in Alg. II if she couldn't do the work. At least she worked to rectify that.
                    Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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                    • #11
                      Unless they graded kinda on a bell curve and just figured since she was smarter than the others, she should get an A.
                      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                      • #12
                        I don't care how curvy your bell is; if a child does not know the material well enough to pass a "lowest common denominator" test, they don't deserve a passing grade.

                        ^-.-^
                        Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                        • #13
                          I just read a newspaper article back home about this, and the state has been comparing GPAs to standardized test scores. If there's a significant difference, the school gets tagged with "grade inflation" status. Students from those districts then aren't allowed to qualify for scholarships on GPA alone; they also have to make a certain grade on the ACT or SAT.

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