Prison Rape Humour

[Seshat]

A close relative of mine was accused of molesting one of my cousins - during a period in her life in which that cousin wasn't actually near him very often.
Needless to say, if he'd gone to trial and been imprisoned... well. It would have been very, very bad for him. (She recanted the accusation, thankfully.)


Anyway.. there are those who themselves, or their relatives, have had experiences like that - or have actually been imprisoned.

There's also the simple fact that there are plenty of people who've been raped and not been imprisoned, who may well be hurt by the idea that rape is seen as funny or deserved at all. By anyone.

It is my understanding that rape can be one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through - an intense violation of a person's ability to control the way their body is used.

Anyway... it's my opinion that rape shouldn't be used as a joke except as a coping mechanism by victims.

Opinions?

[Eisa]

I agree completely. The only time I've been semi-ok with someone joking about it was when he'd been molested/raped himself, and that's how he coped with it. Bothered me, but if that's what he needs to do to cope with what happened, then who am I to say he shouldn't, you know?

But yeah. I hate when people tell me that they wish my perpetrator(s) would be arrested and raped in prison. That doesn't help. It's like...ok thanks...so I'm supposed to be GLAD at the thought that what happened to me will happen to them, too?? Maybe some people feel that way, and I can't blame them. But I don't, and I've told people that. Wish they went to jail, fine, I'm ok with that. I do wish at least one of them was in jail. It's hard to wish some of the others in jail, seeing as how they're family members.

So....yeah I hate when people joke about prison rape. Or any kind of rape. Or when people say "That test raped me," I want to punch them in the face. No, it didn't. Or when my roommate said that she "felt like a rape victim" when talking about swing dancing. REALLY wanted to punch her in the face. Heh. It's not funny. It's not "deserved." It's just awful.

Oh, and yes, it's one of the most traumatic experiences you can go through, I've been sexually abused starting when I was 4. With that particular...perpetrator, ended about 10. Then an asshole of a boyfriend, now thank GAWD he's "ex"--raped me. Continuously. Domestic abuse sucks. So as a result from...everything, let's see, I have: ptsd, complex ptsd, depression, social anxiety, I've self-injured, I have an eating disorder [not otherwise specified lol], multiple phobias that mostly arise from abuse, very strong ocd tendencies, and possible did [have to be officially Dxed, but...it's kinda obvious-ish....]

And I STILL don't wish being raped in prison on ANYONE. And I honestly think it's fucked up when people do. Really, really, really fucked up.

[Rageaholic]

I agree, I never found prison rape jokes or any rape joke funny. Especially in the context people use them like "HA! HE'S GONNA GET RAPED!! THAT'S FUNNY!!", uh no it's not.

[aurelemsrealm]

I've never been through anything that traumatic, so I can't comment on that. However, I don't find such things to be the least bit amusing or humorous. I firmly believe that rapists, child molesters, and other such types deserve whatever bad things happen to them. I would feel absolutely no sympathy for them. I can only imagine what I would do to anyone who ever hurt someone close to me in such a way, but prefer not to think about such things if I don't have to think about them. All I can say is that I feel a very strong sense of disgust and outrage when such stories crop up in the news, and it does make me think about what could happen to people I care about or myself if we don't watch out for each other.

[Rapscallion]

I can see where the commentary comes from. Some feel that prison isn't sufficient to repay society for what they see as genuinely serious crimes. Of course, it gives something to the raping criminals, but...

Innocent people in prison? Not as funny.

Rapscallion

[BlaqueKatt]

and it does make me think about what could happen to people I care about or myself if we don't watch out for each other.

a friend of mine is in prison serving 5-10 years-his charge "party to a robbery".

What did he do? Well he was passed out drunk in the backseat of his friend's car when his friend decided to rob a convenience store. He was still passed out in the car when the police showed up and arrested the friend, Luis was arrested and charged because of what his friend did. So yeah, bad things can happen to people you care about.

Luis did NOTHING wrong-but some people would think he "got what he deserved".

My stepfather, who is developmentally disabled is also serving time for bad checks(he didn't understand how checking accounts work), and had additional time added for defending himself from a rape attempt by his cellmate. Yes in prison if you attempt to defend yourself from any attack, you get additional time for "bad behavior". Imagine if you knew defending yourself against being raped would make you a criminal-this is what inmates go through.

Just Detention international.

one of the stories featured is about a man named Bryson, he died in June of 2010 from AIDS related illness. He was serving a 9 month sentence for check fraud and was raped by 25 different people, contracting HIV from the rapes while incarcerated.

He got a death sentence for check fraud.

these are two of the leaders of Just detention

Stephen Donaldson-died of AIDS contracted from rape
During two days in 1973, when he was in jail on charges of trespassing on White House property during a peace protest, Mr. Donaldson was gang-raped approximately 60 times.

Tom Cahill
Arrested for civil disobedience in 1968, he was gang-raped and tortured by other jail inmates for more than 24 hours.

contrary to popular belief, it's not the violent offenders that become victims, the violent offenders keep offending and creating new victims, without fear of further punishment because their new victims are viewed as "less than human", or somehow deserving of rape by society-it's quite frankly appalling.

[Jester]

Let me preface my comments by saying that I do not believe that rape is funny, as it is one of the worst things that can be done to a person.

And that very reason is why some people DO joke about prison rape. First, sometimes joking about something so truly horrible helps us as a society deal with the horror. Secondly, sometimes various people feel that certain people deserve to have the worst tings done to them.

It is my understanding that rape can be one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through - an intense violation of a person's ability to control the way their body is used.

And this is the very reason some people joke about it and wish it upon someone--generally speaking, someone who's done something horrible to someone else, often violating someone else's body and/or controlling them in various ways through mental, emotional, and physical torture. I'm speaking, of course, about those who abuse their partners, their children, or other people's children, and rapists or sadistic murderers.

One example of such a thing is listed below. Those sensitive to these sorts of things who don't want to read about people wishing rape on others, please skip the next four paragraphs, highlighted in blue for differentiation.

Once when I was performing at my friend's magic bar, I told the group of about 20 people that I would be making a toast to prison anal rape, and that they would be joining me. As a group, they made it clear that I was out of my mind, and that no such thing would happen.

Then I told them that that night, BB had been arrested. He had been arrested for using my friend TD, his girlfriend who was about a third his size, as a punching bag. Repeatedly. He beat the living shit out of her and left her unconscious under their raised house. And for that, I was drinking a toast to HIM being violently and brutally raped in jail.

The entire group joined me in the toast.

I did not then and will not now apologize for my thoughts or words. BB eventually either drove TD to kill herself or staged her suicide, depending on what you believe. Either way, in my mind and the minds of many people familiar with the situation, BB was responsible for TD's death. Therefore, nothing was too horrible or traumatic to be wished upon him. I wanted him to be traumatized as much as--no, MORE than--he had traumatized and abused TD. I want him dead, and I want him to die in the most painful way possible. I wish every bad thing upon him, and I am not alone in this thinking.

Or when people say "That test raped me," I want to punch them in the face. No, it didn't. Or when my roommate said that she "felt like a rape victim" when talking about swing dancing. REALLY wanted to punch her in the face. Heh. It's not funny. It's not "deserved." It's just awful.

Comparing something like rape to a fucking test or dancing is utterly and completely ridiculous. It's like using a nuke to swat a fly. The whole comparison is way out of balance, and makes the person using it look dumber than a box of hammers.

And I STILL don't wish being raped in prison on ANYONE. And I honestly think it's fucked up when people do. Really, really, really fucked up.

I wish this upon a very select few individuals DAILY. I know that some people, yourself included, may view me as really fucked up. What these people did, however, is also really fucked up, and I am by my own admission a vindictive bastard. I have often said I don't believe in an eye for an eye--I believe in a HEAD for an eye. And when it comes to some of the worst abusers and vile slime out there, I will continue to wish this and worse upon them. And if that's fucked up, I am totally fine with being fucked up.

[Eisa]

I've often thought my roommates were dumber than hammers...

I don't know, it makes a little more sense when you're wishing it on someone who's done something awful [although I still couldn't do it and well...ok, still think it's fucked up Maybe not as much as what I'm about to say, but yeah]. But I know people who wish it on anyone as just a "joke." Like, "hey you should be raped in prison!" I don't get that. Or "oh you're going to jail for *insert minor offense here*. Hope you don't get raped!/hope you do!" WTF?

[Mytical]

Rape as a joke is bad, using rape to describe everything is even worse. How many times have I wanted to choke somebody who says things like "Haha I just raped you" talking about a fricken GAME. Or "Man I just got raped" (again a game). NO NO NO NO. You have NO idea what rape really is. If you did, you would never use it like that. Ever.

I've been falsely accused of rape. Now while I can not say I haven't wished some horrible things on rapist..I can say without hesitation that I have never ever even considered doing something like that to anybody..male OR female. EVER. It hurt because of the accusation, but it hurt more that some people actually believed it for a bit.

It never went to trial, but I was dragged through the mud, and nobody would stand up for me. It was my word against this person, and nothing I personally said or did made a bit of difference. I was guilty in everybody's eyes. Or so I thought. One person stood up for me, finally. One person KNEW I would never do something like that..ever. My female cousin finally found somebody who knew I was somewhere else at the time. Convinced them to come forward, despite them being afraid of being thought of as "Helping a rapist go free."

The charges were dropped before the trial began, or even if found innocent I would have had that hanging over me for my entire life.

[BlaqueKatt]

And that very reason is why some people DO joke about prison rape. First, sometimes joking about something so truly horrible helps us as a society deal with the horror.

While joking about the things that make us anxious is sometimes a relief, humor can also trivialize and dehumanize. That is why Jay Leno will not tell racist jokes, why no movie studio will touch a script that makes fun of the Holocaust, and why child abuse is not treated facetiously even by the most outrageous radio talk-show host.

as a survivor of sexual violence and domestic violence I would not wish what I've gone through on anyone, no matter what they did.

[Jester]

We will have to agree to disagree on this. Because as a friend of survivors of sexual and domestic violence, I very much DO wish horrible things on those who perpetrated these acts. Including rape. Frankly, I want these bastards to themselves feel the pain that they inflicted on others. I do not, however, think you are in any way wrong for your stand on this. We just see it differently.

[Panacea]

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It is my understanding that rape can be one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through - an intense violation of a person's ability to control the way their body is used.

Anyway... it's my opinion that rape shouldn't be used as a joke except as a coping mechanism by victims.

Opinions?

Rape is never funny. Never.

Prison isn't funny either. I worked as a correctional nurse. I would not wish that on my worst enemy.

We send people to prison AS punishment, not FOR punishment. The punishment is the loss of freedoms and rights for a set period of time. It is not for the prisoner to suffer additional indignities and penalties through assaults or manipulation by either fellow inmates or prison staff.

The modern penal system is the worst invention mankind has ever come up with, including atomic weapons, IMHO.

[Fashion Lad!]

Rape as a joke is bad, using rape to describe everything is even worse. How many times have I wanted to choke somebody who says things like "Haha I just raped you" talking about a fricken GAME. Or "Man I just got raped" (again a game). NO NO NO NO. You have NO idea what rape really is. If you did, you would never use it like that. Ever.

Hmmm... I'll just leave this here.

4.
an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.

[KnitShoni]

Hmmm... I'll just leave this here.

4.
an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.

How does this definition apply to the usage of the word when talking about being beaten in a video game?

[Fashion Lad!]

How does this definition apply to the usage of the word when talking about being beaten in a video game?

Really?

You don't see how rape can have more than one meaning? It doesn't always have to do with sexual assault or anything of the sort.