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  • #16
    Originally posted by Eisa View Post
    Didn't it also mention the coach saying that yes, it was a legitimate move, but NOT in the position the other boy was in? That what happened would...well, automatically happen?
    In which case an amateur could easily make this mistake?
    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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    • #17
      ^True. On the other hand, why wouldn't the coach have warned them all about the dangers of particular positions? Particularly one like...that...

      Ugh, I'm sorry, I just do not like wrestling.
      "And I won't say "Woe is me"/As I disappear into the sea/'Cause I'm in good company/As we're all going together"

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      • #18
        The coach wasn't the one who taught him the move.
        Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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        • #19
          Considering that the move seems to be common enough and that it's also fairly controversial, the coach should have either taught them how to do it properly and when, or made a point of showing them what they weren't supposed to do.

          I haven't read all of the various reports about the case, but based on some of the commentary I have read and the fact that the kid will not be charged so long as he completes three trivial actions, it seems to me that this is more a witch hunt than an actual case. It got too big, too fast, and because it hit the media, they can't back down and admit a mistake might have been made.

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          • #20
            I agree it seems to be a case where the so called victim is actually the bully in my opinion.

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            • #21
              I don't think the freshman was a bully, either. I think someone completely outside of that dynamic is responsible.

              One article I read said something about the freshman not being the one to put forth the original complaint.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                And by sexually assaulting I mean doing a routine move during wrestling practice.
                Uhhhh. When I was in wrestling in high school, I sure don't recall sticking two finger up the asshole as a valid wrestling maneuver. And anyone who says that it is practices some fucked-up variant of Greco-Roman I've never seen in high school.

                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                I've already heard of this move from friends who have wrestled. It happens. Fingers being rammed in your ass is the result of messing the move up.
                As a former wrestler in high school, I gotta call bullshit on your friends. Maybe it happens in the WWF, but the wrestling singlet does not stretch far enough to allow two fingers to enter the anus without ripping the damn thing to shreds.

                Now a hit to the balls, that I could believe. I once had a guy slip a grip on me in a wrestling match and whang me good. I was so motivated by that I had him pinned before I knew what I was doing.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                  What an absolutely horrifying sport.

                  "Oh, and if you screw up this move, you could find your fingers up your opponent's anus. Or possibly have his fingers up yours. Or maybe you'll just wind up with broken necks. Have fun, boys!"
                  up until the broken necks part I was thinking how that would be an amazing start to a porno

                  That entire sport really blurs the lines between sport and foreplay

                  eta- I actually have seen that in porn before... so yes, very good start
                  Last edited by smileyeagle1021; 01-23-2011, 10:15 AM.
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                  • #24
                    Some time last year there was a sports fail pic of a ref with a too happy grin on his face whilst teens wrestled

                    as for the porno female wrestling foreplay video's have been around for a while, mind you so has mud wrestling.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by FArchivist View Post
                      As a former wrestler in high school, I gotta call bullshit on your friends. Maybe it happens in the WWF, but the wrestling singlet does not stretch far enough to allow two fingers to enter the anus without ripping the damn thing to shreds.
                      I never said anywhere that fingers are supposed to go IN the ass.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                        I never said anywhere that fingers are supposed to go IN the ass.
                        And yet, you describe this as a "normal wrestling move". When clearly, this is far from it, especially when you've got two finger going in the ass. Pro-tip says, if his fingers went up the ass, it ain't normal. And even if you were wearing gym shorts instead of a wrestling singlet (which is a bad practice idea anyway), I can't see it happening in any way except intentional.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by FArchivist View Post
                          And yet, you describe this as a "normal wrestling move". When clearly, this is far from it, especially when you've got two finger going in the ass. Pro-tip says, if his fingers went up the ass, it ain't normal. And even if you were wearing gym shorts instead of a wrestling singlet (which is a bad practice idea anyway), I can't see it happening in any way except intentional.
                          I never said the way he did it was normal either. It's like you scanned my sentences but never read them.

                          The move is normal. The way he fucked it up is not.
                          Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                          • #28
                            From everything I can find on the case, the senior in question was a bit of a bully. In an earlier incident, he took the younger student's water bottle, and when the other student tried to stand up to him, that's when the alleged threatening gesture was made. I honestly think the gesture wasn't anything people were trying to make it out to be. The senior did push the move in a manner that he shouldn't have; he admits as much.

                            However, one thing that I wonder in all of this; where was the coach, the teachers, and the "bullied" student's parents?

                            I find it bizarre that in yet another case of bullying where the victim's name is kept out of the papers, the victim's parent(s) is more than happy to step up and be named, which totally defeats the purpose of not naming the kid. The grandstanding by these kids' parents is sickening and cheapens the entire process.

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                            • #29
                              Well, seeing as it was practice, I'm not sure why parents or teachers would be watching. As for the coach, he was probably going around the practice room. Even then, what would he have done? It's a move designed to move your opponent into a better position. He fucked up the move. It's not like if the coach was standing there it would have changed anything.
                              Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                              • #30
                                It doesn't sound at all like he did something he didn't intend to do.

                                As I stated before, there was already something of a history between the two students, and it sounds like during this practice, the victim was mostly just turtling against the senior rather than really practice his wrestling, so the move was employed to get him to be more active in the practice. The senior said it was "to get him to wrestle."

                                Based on how the senior's statements sound from the outside, I get the impression he considered this a normal option, which makes me wonder if it was used in that manner as a matter of course and since it was such a routine thing, nobody though anything of it until it got to this point.

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