Chicago Car Salesman Fired For ...

[Greenday]

If it's "just a game", why try to win? Because it's a lot more than just a game. It's not Trouble or Monopoly.

As I've already pointed out, I care who someone roots for. Anyone rooting for any Boston team gets a lower opinion from me. Philly fans? Eh, takes a step down too.

There are tons of people just like me with the same attitude. You are going to root for our biggest rival? Well, fuck you. The owner knows this. And the owner responded properly to someone attempting to hurt the business.

The whole "I think the owner is on a power trip" is one of the things I dislike about CS and don't hang out there quite so often. It's all about taking down the man. What constitutes as a legit business decision is hated because it hurt the little guy. News flash, it's a business! It's about making money.

[Mikkel]

If it's "just a game", why try to win? Because it's a lot more than just a game. It's not Trouble or Monopoly.

I may be doing it wrong, but I try to win in Monopoly too . I can't see firing or despising anyone over neither Monopoly nor football.

[Greenday]

I can when it means he is hurting the company.

[Boozy]

I may be doing it wrong, but I try to win in Monopoly too . I can't see firing or despising anyone over neither Monopoly nor football.

I can't either, but it's not about what WE think. Its about what the dealership's customers would think.

A Packers tie would be seen as genuinely offensive and inflammatory to a large portion of their customers. Management had every right to ask him to remove the tie, and the sales guy was a stubborn idiot for refusing to do so.

[MadMike]

If it's "just a game", why try to win?

Isn't that the object of any game? To win?

I can when it means he is hurting the company.

But where does that end? What if the guy wasn't wearing the tie, but everyone in town new the guy was a fan of the opposing team? Should the manager have the right to force the guy to stop being a fan because it's "hurting the company?" Sorry, I had a flashback to the "is it good for the company?" speech from Office Space. In case you haven't seen the movie, the attitude by management was "fuck the employees, the company comes first."

I can't either, but it's not about what WE think. Its about what the dealership's customers would think.

Again, let's say he wasn't even wearing the tie, but it was common knowledge that the guy was a supporter of the other team. Should the manager be allowed to fire anyone who supports the "wrong" team because of "what the customers would think?"

Management had every right to ask him to remove the tie, and the sales guy was a stubborn idiot for refusing to do so.

Well, I have to agree with that, but the manager was also an idiot for making such a big deal about it. There are much worse things the salesman could have been wearing.

[Greenday]

There's a difference between being a fan and flaunting it.

[Andara Bledin]

As I've already pointed out, I care who someone roots for. Anyone rooting for any Boston team gets a lower opinion from me. Philly fans? Eh, takes a step down too.

This is blindingly shallow.

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[AdminAssistant]

This is blindingly shallow.

Yeah, it is. I mean, it's one thing to have a bit of harmless ribbing at someone who supports a rival school or team. I have a friend at Mizzou and we do a bit of that, even though neither of us really cares how the teams are playing. My Fiance (a Packers fan) and one of my best friends (a Pitt native and *diehard* Steelers fan) have been having a good bit of fun at each other.

Besides, wearing a tie is hardly "flaunting it." If he had walked in with a cheese on his head, that would be flaunting it. I mean, that would be like the University firing my professor because yesterday he wore purple and silver (KState colors). Or firing me because I still carry around things from my previous alma maters.

[Greenday]

Hey, they could have redeeming qualities. But being a fan from either of those two regions is definitely going to start us off on the wrong foot.

[Ginger Tea]

And if you found out their team a fair while after knowing them well?

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If customers declined his service due to the tie and it was loosing potential sales then its bad. "I ain't buying no car of a <team> fan." narrow minded, but some people are just wired that way. If no one was declining his service even with the tie then whats the deal?

If a customer is declined service by an employee over their sporting perference then that is bad customer services "Your team beat my team I'm not serving you." I know you have the right to refuse custom, but that is normally a last resort and after reading CS.com due to total fuckwittery on the customer's part and no spineless manager kowtowing.

[HYHYBT]

There's the opposite side of customer relations to consider: it is now well-publicised that the dealership someone over supporting the "wrong" sports team, or at least over a minor display of apparent support. How might that affect business? They say any publicity is good... but it seems like this would make both fans of any other team and those of any affinity who aren't so rabid as to think less of people as people over such things far more likely to choose another dealership than it would be to make Bears fans choose this one.

[Eisa]

^Yeah, I know if I lived there, I would not want to patronize that dealership. Not if someone can get fired over wearing the "wrong" sports tie. Granted, yes, the guy should have just taken it off. But still. I still don't get how sports teams are SO overwhelmingly "I like this team if you like that team I hate you" etc. It's just sports to me.

[Boozy]

There's a difference between being a fan and flaunting it.

That's how I see it.

And isn't this just a dress code issue at heart? Whether or not you think it's silly that customers might be offended by a tie representing a sports team is beside the point. I think it's silly that people get offended by facial piercings, but I understand why my company doesn't allow us to wear them to work. Enough of our customers have a problem with them that they are prohibited by our dress code.

I usually support workers' rights over company rights, but even I maintain that a company has the right to tell it's employees - especially those that deal with the public - what they can and cannot wear to work (within reason). It's such a minor thing.

[MadMike]

Hey, they could have redeeming qualities. But being a fan from either of those two regions is definitely going to start us off on the wrong foot.

Are you seriously saying you look down on someone on the basis of what sports team they support? I honestly don't know what to say.

[guywithashovel]

Sports rivalries can get kind of tough.

I live in Columbus, Ohio, which is where The Ohio State University is located. As some of you may already know, OSU and the University of Michigan are big rivals. I think they're one of the biggest rivalries in college sports. You should see the city of Columbus during football season when the OSU vs Michigan game comes up. Anyway, being a Michigan fan here might get some flack thrown in your direction. However, we do have some Michigan fans here, and many of the stores do sell Michigan apparel and accessories.

A girl at work who teaches in the medical department actually told me once that we couldn't be friends if I was a Michigan fan. We were at a karaoke bar after our work Christmas party, and a basketball game was playing on the bar TV, and she was telling me her favorite teams. After she said one of her favs was Ohio State, I jokingly said, "You're other favorite must be Michigan, right?"

The first song played in this video gets posted on a lot of blogs and Facebook pages when OSU plays Michigan. That, and "Hang on Sloopy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx5TVBf6cWM

Now, I like Ohio State, and I get psyched up about the Michigan game, and that song IS catchy, but I don't really get it. The lyrics go "I don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, the whole state of Michigan . . . "

Really?

If you really didn't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, you probably wouldn't care who won the game, would you?