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  • #16
    Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
    It's this attitude right here that made the donation "expose worthy" in the first place.
    I will not look down on a woman who makes her living as a stripper. However, I don't think it should be encouraged. Better to make a living based on what's between your ears than what's on your chest. I don't think that's sanctimonious, absurd, or bizarre, it's about wanting the best education and opportunities for the next generation of young women.

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    • #17
      I don't see how taking a LOT of money from a strip club to pay for educational stuff is encouraging girls to become strippers. If anything, it looks like the owner wants kids to get the best education, so any girls who DO come to work at his place have made a choice among the many options available to them.

      Or maybe, say, to pay for college?
      I have a drawing of an orange, which proves I am a semi-tangible collection of pixels forming a somewhat coherent image manifested from the intoxicated mind of a madman. Naturally.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
        I will not look down on a woman who makes her living as a stripper. However, I don't think it should be encouraged. Better to make a living based on what's between your ears than what's on your chest. I don't think that's sanctimonious, absurd, or bizarre, it's about wanting the best education and opportunities for the next generation of young women.
        What's wrong with using physical advantages to make money over using mental advantages? I just don't get this attitude.

        ^-.-^
        Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
          What's wrong with using physical advantages to make money over using mental advantages? I just don't get this attitude.

          ^-.-^
          Your mental abilities last longer than physical.
          Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Greenday View Post
            Your mental abilities last longer than physical.
            Exactly.

            Besides, you can give me all the examples you want of kindly bar/club owners and girls who use the cash to pay for college. But you know that not all of those owners are so kindly, that there are a lot of assholes who will expect those girls to perform "extra services", and that there are a lot of girls who have no other options. If a woman decides of her own free will to take off her clothes and mimic sex acts on a pole for money, then that's her decision. But it should be a well-informed decision made from a place of logic and reason, not desperation.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
              Exactly.

              Besides, you can give me all the examples you want of kindly bar/club owners and girls who use the cash to pay for college. But you know that not all of those owners are so kindly, that there are a lot of assholes who will expect those girls to perform "extra services", and that there are a lot of girls who have no other options. If a woman decides of her own free will to take off her clothes and mimic sex acts on a pole for money, then that's her decision. But it should be a well-informed decision made from a place of logic and reason, not desperation.
              And a big, juicy, 5-figure donation will help her get the education needed to make decisions with logic and reason, no matter where it comes from.

              Also, I'd like to know how YOU know owners would "expect those girls to perform 'extra services'." Do you know strippers who have had to do that? Or seen studies, research, something like that? A documentary?
              Last edited by Ladeeda; 02-03-2011, 07:07 PM.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                Your mental abilities last longer than physical.
                I hope so, that doesn't mean that a strong guy shouldn't have a job where he can use his strength. He ought to take every chance to get qualified for something else to prepare for the day when his strength is gone or his joints hurt.
                Still, some people are born with physical advantages, should they ignore them because they won't last?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                  Your mental abilities last longer than physical.
                  Largely irrelevant.

                  Originally posted by Mikkel View Post
                  Still, some people are born with physical advantages, should they ignore them because they won't last?
                  It seems to me that if you have an advantage with a time limit attached, it would behoove you to make use of that advantage while it was still there, rather than ignoring it because it wouldn't be there some nebulous time in the future.

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                  Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ladeeda View Post
                    And a big, juicy, 5-figure donation will help her get the education needed to make decisions with logic and reason, no matter where it comes from.
                    I'm not arguing that. In fact, I believe I said that the school *should* accept the donation. Schools are so ridiculously broke right now, and with states slashing their education budgets it's only going to get worse. Add in the fact that the way public schools are funded guarantees that schools in poor neighborhoods are worse off, then this school would be foolish to return the money. They need every penny they can get.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                      Largely irrelevant.
                      Hm, making money for 10 years (if you're lucky) or making money until your 60s.
                      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                        If we'd stop having such absurd and bizarre hangups about the human body and sexuality in general, the world would be a better place.
                        Funnily enough, if we didn't have hangups such as these, the exotic dancing industry would likely be far less lucrative.

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                        • #27
                          The ironic part is that if society would get over its hangup with regard to the human body, there would be far less demand for strip clubs, therefore obviating any need to object to them...

                          Edit: Beaten like a red-headed stepchild.
                          One mixed drink is all it takes to make me Cata-tonic!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                            Hm, making money for 10 years (if you're lucky) or making money until your 60s.
                            I refer you to your own avatar, my good man.
                            One mixed drink is all it takes to make me Cata-tonic!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                              Hm, making money for 10 years (if you're lucky) or making money until your 60s.
                              So... Using your physical advantages for 10 years means that after that 10 years, you can't use your mental advantages?

                              The two aren't mutually exclusive. Hell, you could be doing both, if you were ambitious. In fact, quite a few people do do both. The last stripper I personally knew was putting herself through school because she, like anyone else with two braincells to rub together, knew it wouldn't last. And she was one of the dumb ones.

                              Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post
                              Funnily enough, if we didn't have hangups such as these, the exotic dancing industry would likely be far less lucrative.
                              For the people against exotic dancing, wouldn't that be a win?

                              Originally posted by Cata View Post
                              I refer you to your own avatar, my good man.
                              Oh, but using your body for sports is totally different than using your body for other people to ogle.

                              </sarcasm>

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                              Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cata View Post
                                The ironic part is that if society would get over its hangup with regard to the human body, there would be far less demand for strip clubs, therefore obviating any need to object to them...
                                Nah, there will always be lonely guys willing to give attractive women money to undress for them and pretend to like them.

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