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  • #16
    Here's my problem with that. In my experiences, those women who have climbed the ladder to that high a position usually are mean, cut throat women. I've never experience one female manager/boss that was pleasant to work for. And maybe because that's how it takes for a lot of people to get there. Unless you know someone.
    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Greenday View Post
      I've never experience one female manager/boss that was pleasant to work for.
      Once again, your experience is not a representative sample. How many female bosses have you had versus how many female bosses are there out there? Every female boss I've ever had with an exception of one has been pleasant, efficient and great to work with.

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      • #18
        Career-oriented women have to go through so much shit that it's no wonder that a few of them are cranky. If they're aggressive in advancing in their career, like men are expected to be, then they're a bitch. If they are successful in climbing the ladder, then "they're sleeping their way to the top." If they decide not to have a family, so that they can focus on their career, then they're labelled as "lonely career woman who just needs a man to complete her life" or, every Sandra Bullock movie ever made. If they decide to have a family, then they're labelled as a bad mother, and wouldn't it be better to be a SAHM? Then at the workplace, if she has to go home to tend to her child, she's "not a team player."

        Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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        • #19
          When men claim that their female supervisors are bitches, I'm immediately doubtful. It's not the women, it's society's perception of them, and our expectations of how a woman should behave.

          Even my own husband does it, and he'd consider himself progressive. If a woman raises her voice in a board meeting, she's a "strident bitch". If a man does it, he's just "lost his temper".

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          • #20
            Actually, sometimes, the female superiors are bitches. But it stems from the same source; society has a perception that successful women are bitches and women who are successful are part of society, so it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

            ^-.-^
            Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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            • #21
              I run into this all the time. I'm married with two kids. Right now I'm working full time and my husband is a stay at home dad.

              People always ask who watches our kids while I'm at work and when I say that my husband does they act shocked that a man could be capable of caring for his children, and usually ask how he likes being "Mr. Mom." I always tell them he's not Mr. Mom, he's their dad, he's just as capable of taking care of them as I am.

              But some people seem to think that all women should stay at home and take care of the kids instead of having a career. And that if you don't you're less of a mother and wife, putting your job above your family and leaving your children to be raised by strangers.

              When my husband is working he only works part-time around my hours, so that one of us can always stay home with the kids and cut expenses. But I've had people tell me it's not right that I'm the breadwinner, and that he doesn't contribute as much financially. I also pay all the bills and manage our finances. We're both fine with this arrangement and all our bills are paid on time, so I don't understand why other people take issue with it.

              One of my co-workers doesn't feel that women at our job should be allowed to work alone, especially on 3rd shift (my shift), because it's "too dangerous." I've worked there two years alone on night shift and never once ran into a dangerous situation.

              My co-worker is also very old fashioned in that he believes the man should be the bread winner, women shouldn't work, should have long hair not short hair, should wear skirts or dresses only, no pants, and shouldn't dye their hair.

              My former supervisor believed that our job was no place for a pregnant woman. I worked there throughout my entire pregnancy and never had a problem doing my job or ran into any problems.

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              • #22
                I despise the term. I have no idea what it means.

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                • #23
                  What term?
                  "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
                  ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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                  • #24
                    It is another name for a female dog. Nature proves all the time that females can be the hunters/gatherers and males the nurturers. As for stay at home parents, got nothing but respect for them. It's pretty much a 24/7 job, with little or no time off. Much harder then any job I've ever had. Period.

                    That is male OR female.

                    I see nothing wrong with a guy staying home and taking care of the children. Unfortunately some old things just die hard.

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